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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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Highly confused on what lift for 1st gen 4runner

Hey guys. Im looking for a lift for the 88 4runner. I am looking at the procomp page, but there are 3 different lifts, and i dont know what one is best for me? If anyone could help me IDE really APPRICIATE IT! Ide like to have the MX-6 adjustable shocks. Here are the lifts...

86-89 4 Runner (STAGE I) spindles, Lower control arm drop brackets, differential drop brackets, sway-bar lowering kit, rear crossmember, iron spindle adapters, rear block kit, Stainless Steel brakelines, 4 ES3000 shocks
EXPK5054 $732.99




Same as Above Kit PT# EXPK5054, However this one Includes the MX-6 Shocks. These are the Robby Gordon 6 way fully adjustable Shocks. You can set the Firmness the way you want.
EXPK5054MX $940.99



4WD 86-89 4 Runner (STAGE II) spindles, Lower control arm drop brackets, differential drop brackets, sway-bar lowering kit, rear crossmember, iron spindle adapters, rear block kit, Stainless Steel brakelines, Lateral Compression Struts, added control arm brackets for more off road articulation, 4 ES3000 shocks
EXPK5055 $840.99




Same as Above Kit PT# EXPK5055, However this one Includes the MX-6 Shocks. These are the Robby Gordon 6 way fully adjustable Shocks. You can set the Firmness the way you want.
EXPK5055MX $1,048.99




4WD 86-89 4 Runner (CLASS I) 4" Lift Includes; A-Arm Drop Bracket, Rear Crossmember, Bumpstop Spacer, Center Differential Brkt., Differential Drop Brkt., Stainless Steel brakelines, Sway Bar Drop Down Brkts., Spindle Adapters, Rear Block Kit, 4 ES3000 Shocks
EXPK5056 $732.99




Same as Above Kit PT# EXPK5056, However this one Includes the MX-6 Shocks. These are the Robby Gordon 6 way fully adjustable Shocks. You can set the Firmness the way you want.
EXPK5056MX $940.99




86-89 4 RUNNER (CLASS II) 4" Lift Includes; Rear Crossmember, Front and Rear A-Arm Drop Brkts., Compression Struts, Center Differential Bracket, Lateral Compression Struts, Brake Drop Down Bracket, Differential Drop Brkts., Sway Bar Drop Down Brkts., Spindle Cone Spacer, Spindle Adapters, Extended Stainless Steel Brakelins, Rear Block kit, 4 ES3000 Shocks
EXPK5057 $1,155.

THX FOR THE HELP GUYS!
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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I dont have personal experience with IFS lifts, I have an 86 with SAS done and 94 4runner downey coils, t bar crank, however I have read alot over the years and I know everyone HIGHLY recommends the Superlift kit over all the others, although the State 2 Pro Comp comes in a close second. Superlift uses 1 piece crossmembers. Much stronger...a couple people on here have them...maybe they will chime in. I believe another company, possibly Donahoe or Total Chaos was developing a kit to covert torsion bar IFS to coilovers. I believe they are ready to purchase too?
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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How much do you want to spend?

What kind of wheeling do you do?

There are a couple of things to consider and a couple of options.

If you go with procomp, get the stage II kit. It's a bit stronger than stage I

But better yet if you get a bracket lift (Trailmaster, Procomp, Superlift, Tuff country, ruff country) get the SUperlift....it is way stronger. I had the trailmaster and would get the superlift after my expereinces.

Total chaos, esb fabrication, and jd fabrication make long arm kits, but they cost 2-4 times as much when all is said and done.

If you want the best cheap and functional lift. Get some rear Downey springs www.downeyoff-road.com and some balljoint spacers up front. www.4crawler.com
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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i just want room to clear 33s. I do some thick mud and ocassional rocks. What springs woudl you recommend for me if i do balljoint spacers up front? Shoul di do the 2 or 3inch lift springs? ALso, will the trcuk sit level with the spacersup front/springs in back?

Another thing...With the spacers. Later down the road i may want to ad a body lift. Can i still do that with the spacers? Thx for th ehelp

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tacoma750
i just want room to clear 33s. I do some thick mud and ocassional rocks. What springs woudl you recommend for me if i do balljoint spacers up front? Shoul di do the 2 or 3inch lift springs? ALso, will the trcuk sit level with the spacersup front/springs in back?

Another thing...With the spacers. Later down the road i may want to ad a body lift. Can i still do that with the spacers? Thx for th ehelp
Sounds like you just answered your own questions about the ProComp lift.

Go with the ball joint spacers, and maybe a soft add-a-leaf or a lift shackle in the rear. Maybe throw on a 1" body lift from Roger Brown and call it good.

I've owned (and wheeled) my '88 truck for 13 years and have never bought an IFS lift for it because they're not worth it. You get clearance for bigger tires, but no additional wheel travel, and your center of gravity is way higher.

I've been running 32"s for a couple of years, and bj spacers for the last year. In my opinion it's a much better setup than an IFS bracket lift. Spend the money you'll save on lockers, bumpers, sliders, etc.

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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to balance things out I would get the 2" lift, and add in the recommended leaf from your stock pack. Not necessary, but you might want to consider the prerunner add aleaf for an overload. It won't lift you anymore, but when your suspension bottoms out it will not be harsh like the stock overload, it will actually make the pack more progressive.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Let me tell you, I have been down that road and spent near 1000.00 on an IFS lift just to find out that I wanted more, YOU ALWAYS WANT MORE..., THE BEST. Do yourself a favor and save up to do a SAS. You will be much happier and able to go to nicer, further away places with that righteous type of lift.
Just my $.02 worth.
I had a Pro comp lift for 2 years then went to the all pro SAS.

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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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It all depends on what wheeling you do and what your goal is. I have no interest in a SAS for my type of wheeling.
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 04:48 AM
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well its is a DD. We go wheeling about 1-2 twice a month. Every so often we go to paragon...Its a huge 4wheelpark. Rocks and mud. But i really like just playing around in the mud. Im torn on what to do. I could save for the SAS, but it may take a while. Also, if i do that, i wont have a car for a few days.And that is also a PITA. Thx guys, i'll figure something out
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tacoma750
well its is a DD. We go wheeling about 1-2 twice a month. Every so often we go to paragon...Its a huge 4wheelpark. Rocks and mud. But i really like just playing around in the mud. Im torn on what to do. I could save for the SAS, but it may take a while. Also, if i do that, i wont have a car for a few days.And that is also a PITA. Thx guys, i'll figure something out
SAS. Mine is a DD'er and it drives great...only so much you can do w/ IFS lift...and then it is STILL IFS. Just really depends on what you want to do...

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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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I list a few mild lift "recipes" for fittins 33" tires on an IFS truck on my web page:

http://www.4Crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...it.shtml#FAQ10

You can fit 33s with minimal cost and effort, then if you later decide to do a SAS, you won't be faced with trashing a $1000 lift kit.
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tacoma750
well its is a DD. We go wheeling about 1-2 twice a month. Every so often we go to paragon...Its a huge 4wheelpark. Rocks and mud. But i really like just playing around in the mud. Im torn on what to do. I could save for the SAS, but it may take a while. Also, if i do that, i wont have a car for a few days.And that is also a PITA. Thx guys, i'll figure something out

hey taco750----you could try something like what i did and freak people out how good it looks and how cheap it is......

In the front, I cranked the T-bar bolts 10 full turns each....that gave 1.5" of lift....not too radical and no serious side effects.

In the rear, I left the factory leafs basically untouched yet got about 3" of lift using a "support coil" in a couple different configurations....... just like the game show, the price is RIGHT! see 2 links below.

http://gearinstalls.com/dadcoil.htm

http://gearinstalls.com/helper.htm
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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I was looking at the Downey long travel kit, there are issues with 93 and up A/C stuff. That is another possibility, cheaper than total chaos (I think). Anyone try one of these?
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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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I like Downey's stuff, but thier long travel kit sounds hokey to me, slip yokes are something I don't trust. And when you have a big disclaimer for you product that isn't reassuring.

Not to mention they have to use cheap parts from a company that doesn't even list them in thier catalouge (Rancho), not for me. Save the money and get an ESB long travel kit.

However, if you are running stock arms, I woulod check out DOwney's mega travel ball joints....might help a little.
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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I think im just gonna lift it with a kit. If i end up doing a SAS later, i'll just sell the kit on ebay. I really like HIGH trucks. I know a lot of you guys are against it, and like a low COG...But for the wheeling i do(mostly mud) i can get away with a higher lift. Thx for the help guys! I deffinatley wont forget the advice!
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