BFGoodrich Rugged Trails ??
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BFGoodrich Rugged Trails ??
Thoughts on these relative to other tires? Do they offer reasonable performance offroad? Price relative to BFG A/T's? How about snow, rain, dry performance? Is the extra cost to the the A/T's over these worth it?
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Originally Posted by CoedNaked
Thoughts on these relative to other tires? Do they offer reasonable performance offroad? Price relative to BFG A/T's? How about snow, rain, dry performance? Is the extra cost to the the A/T's over these worth it?
I dont know a ton about tires, but i have heard that on a lot of the BFG A/T's that they only wear good for the 1st season and then it all kinda goes down hill, maybe i have been missinformed, i dont know. i ahve been looking at Bridgestone Duelers A/T Revo's they seem to have pretty good reviews and awesome stats on the Tire Rack .com, i think that this is the sight name? but this site gives stats and comparative tire stuff, enjoy.
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The Rugged Trails come stock on Tacomas I think-my good friend has them stock on his Taco.
The BFG AT is definitely a step up from the Rugged Trails.
My old truck came stock with BFG Long Trails and the Rugged Trails look very similar.
The BFG AT is definitely a step up from the Rugged Trails.
My old truck came stock with BFG Long Trails and the Rugged Trails look very similar.
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What I essentially want to know is what can and can't the Rugged trails do that the A/T's can or can't do? Is the A/T (KO) in general a step up in all directions, or does each tire have it's virtues that distinguish them from each other? If so, if you could please elaborate I'd be interested in hearing...
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Oh, I think the ATKO is definitely much, much better off road. It's a true AT tire. You can see that in real life very clearly- it's a substantial tire.
The Rugged Trail is a street tire with slightly aggressive tread- I would equate it to a street snow tire or something (in the "aggressiveness" of the tread design, I have no idea how it actually performs in snow).
The carcass of the ATKO is also much thicker and stronger.
I do think the RT is going to be better on the street, in rain, etc. It's lighter (less rotational mass, better mpg, braking), more comfortable (lighterweight carcass)--but those are really minor things compared to the ATKO.
I will tell you my friend (Taco owner) did not like the ATKO because he said they were noisy and slippery in the rain. He doesn't off road or roadtrip- just a worktruck. He seems satisfied with the stock RT's.
Maybe someone like Bud will chime in. He has a Taco and plenty of experience with the RT's on/off road and I think he now has ATKO's.
The Rugged Trail is a street tire with slightly aggressive tread- I would equate it to a street snow tire or something (in the "aggressiveness" of the tread design, I have no idea how it actually performs in snow).
The carcass of the ATKO is also much thicker and stronger.
I do think the RT is going to be better on the street, in rain, etc. It's lighter (less rotational mass, better mpg, braking), more comfortable (lighterweight carcass)--but those are really minor things compared to the ATKO.
I will tell you my friend (Taco owner) did not like the ATKO because he said they were noisy and slippery in the rain. He doesn't off road or roadtrip- just a worktruck. He seems satisfied with the stock RT's.
Maybe someone like Bud will chime in. He has a Taco and plenty of experience with the RT's on/off road and I think he now has ATKO's.
Last edited by FirstToy; Oct 18, 2004 at 11:28 PM.
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Hi, this is just my .02.. My dads 02 Taco Trd came with them stock. They were ok for the first 15,000 miles but then formed cups and the tread got almost lumpy. They were not good in the rain at all. They did Ok in snow for the first 20,000 miles but then the tread was pretty worn and flat. The one thing that I didnt like was the way they felt when you would go through a turn at highway speeds, now I will say that my dad keeps his tires at the stock pressure which in my opinion is a little to low for highway driving. The rugged trails did how ever get 45,000 miles and probably would have passed another year’s state inspection but were pretty ugly. He recently had a set of Revos installed and loves them. I am not sure if the tires wore funny because of the stock Bilstein shocks that were way to soft and the fact that the rear shocks were basically dead, but I would not buy a set of these tires. I would go with the Revos or the BFG AT Ko's.
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Rugged trails came stock on my '02 taco and they have done fine on and off road for me in AZ. I have 30k miles on them now. I don't have any snow exp in these tires. I only have very limited rain and mud exp and they worked fine. I don't know what kind of trails you have over there, but the trails I've wheeled on here is all rock. I haven't encountered a situation where I said "man if I only had better tires..."
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Depends on what you're going to use them for. Mostly a DD with some off road? Solid off road use with the occasional trip to work? I'll presume you're not talking hard core off road, or you wouldn't even ask about the Rugged Trails. I've had good performance with AT's but also had a set of Michelin more geared to the hwy when my truck was a DD that gave me solid performance for 80k. A friend has a Taco w/ RT's that was able to go everywhere I did with the AT's. Like Hong though, I'm in AZ and we don't know what snow or rain are. My .02
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rugged trails are horrible on wet roads and snow. Ok on dry roads.
I dont mind using it as summer tires. No road noise compared to some slight road noise on a/t ko. Rt's aint so bad offroad either, never had a flat. Then again i dont do anything hardcore.
If you offroad, the price difference of the A/T is definitely worth it since avg. lifetime of rt's are 35k miles. I've read stories of bfg a/t lasting over 60k miles.
I dont mind using it as summer tires. No road noise compared to some slight road noise on a/t ko. Rt's aint so bad offroad either, never had a flat. Then again i dont do anything hardcore.
If you offroad, the price difference of the A/T is definitely worth it since avg. lifetime of rt's are 35k miles. I've read stories of bfg a/t lasting over 60k miles.
#10
get the m/t's
if your getting some new meats just go ahead and get the mud terrain's. sure they may be more than you need but dang they look cool and you will always have a tire that is a very capable off-road. they are not loud on the highway either. i know that this is not the information you wanted but i was considering the a/t's as well when i was looking for some tires. i am glad i did not get the a/t's.
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i live up in a canyon and on the wet roads here, the RTs sucked... after the first 15,000 miles, i could feel and hear them slipping on the turns... i went with Yokohama Geolandar ATs and have had absolutely no problems... i keep hearing that the BFG ATs handle better, so i may end up goin that route myself... the Yokos are very quiet, but i dont think i will mind the noise of the BFGs...
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These dogs came stock on my 03 taco and they are terrible. Really bad in the snow and sand. Though they are fine if you you stay on the road and it doesn't rain or snow.. Hmmmmmm, no they still suck.. Yep, lame is the answer. I have 16k on mine... got em siped and are better but not worth cashish....
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