Installing new front leaf springs on my 1984 4x4 I need help!
#1
Installing new front leaf springs on my 1984 4x4 I need help!
Hello everyone I’m new here, Yesterday I attempted to install new pair of old man emu front leaf springs on my 1984 pickup 4x4 I took the old leaf spring off the driver side and attempted to put the new leaf spring on but the new one has so much flex! Compared to the super flat old springs I took out. I cannot put the new leaf springs on to save my life! Any tips? I’m using the stock shackles since I’m not lifting my truck. Should I have 2 other people help me try to flex it as low as they can to put one end in first? Or do I have to buy new shackles to make the fit?? Any tips will be helpful thank you.
Last edited by Junetaco90; Mar 28, 2020 at 09:55 AM.
#2
Are you saying the new springs have a lot more arch as compared to the old? Have you measured the springs eye-to-eye, following the arch of the spring?
To be clear, the new springs are NOT lift springs?
When the old springs where in, with the truck on the ground, what angle were the shackles at?
To be clear, the new springs are NOT lift springs?
When the old springs where in, with the truck on the ground, what angle were the shackles at?
#3
Are you saying the new springs have a lot more arch as compared to the old? Have you measured the springs eye-to-eye, following the arch of the spring?
To be clear, the new springs are NOT lift springs?
When the old springs where in, with the truck on the ground, what angle were the shackles at?
To be clear, the new springs are NOT lift springs?
When the old springs where in, with the truck on the ground, what angle were the shackles at?
Hello the springs are 0-2 inch lift this is the part number old man emu CS008FB. And yes they have a lot more arch then the original which were 34 years old. The shackles are pointed towards the back of the truck. I should also point out I purchase the heavy springs for the rear. I’m starting to think I should of purchased new shackles.
#4
Every time I've put in leaf springs, it's been sort of a fight. I'm not understanding exactly what your issue is though. I have these on my 85, and I did do new beefier shackles, but I don't see why the old shackles wouldn't have worked.
What exactly is the problem you're having? Are they like flat against the frame now? Pictures?
What exactly is the problem you're having? Are they like flat against the frame now? Pictures?
#5
Every time I've put in leaf springs, it's been sort of a fight. I'm not understanding exactly what your issue is though. I have these on my 85, and I did do new beefier shackles, but I don't see why the old shackles wouldn't have worked.
What exactly is the problem you're having? Are they like flat against the frame now? Pictures?
What exactly is the problem you're having? Are they like flat against the frame now? Pictures?
#6
Ok I just did OME Dakars on my 85 4runner. First question. Have you disconnected the torque rod? I couldn't get mine to drop far enough without disconnecting it. Then it went in just like butter.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...=289277&page=8
Link to my boring thread.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...=289277&page=8
Link to my boring thread.
Last edited by thefishguy77; Mar 29, 2020 at 08:09 PM.
#7
Ok I just did OME Dakars on my 85 4runner. First question. Have you disconnected the torque rod? I couldn't get mine to drop far enough without disconnecting it. Then it went in just like butter.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...=289277&page=8
Link to my boring thread.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...=289277&page=8
Link to my boring thread.
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#8
Thanks. The torque rod assuming you brake lines and leaf springs are disconnected should be the last item holding your axle in place. Then its just moving it around to get the springs to line up on the leafs. Bolt and her back together. Lets see pictures of the rig.
#9
Did you get it squared away? I did the same OME front springs with the stock shackles a couple months back and thought I’d add to the thread. Hopefully you’ve got it done already but maybe this will help the next person.
I disconnected the torque rod, the brake lines, and the drag link (which I cleaned and inspected while it was off). With everything disconnected I was able to drop the axle way down and get everything bolted up with out much issue.
I read somewhere that it was easier to install the front (fixed pin) side of the spring first so I slid the pin in and threaded the nut a couple of turns so it wouldn’t fall off. Then I put the shackle half way into the other end of the leaf spring and finally put the shackle into the frame and pushed the shackle all the way in before torquing everything down. That seemed to work best for me.
Happy Trails,
Winky
I disconnected the torque rod, the brake lines, and the drag link (which I cleaned and inspected while it was off). With everything disconnected I was able to drop the axle way down and get everything bolted up with out much issue.
I read somewhere that it was easier to install the front (fixed pin) side of the spring first so I slid the pin in and threaded the nut a couple of turns so it wouldn’t fall off. Then I put the shackle half way into the other end of the leaf spring and finally put the shackle into the frame and pushed the shackle all the way in before torquing everything down. That seemed to work best for me.
Happy Trails,
Winky
Last edited by Winky29; Mar 31, 2020 at 10:27 PM.
#10
Did you get it squared away? I did the same OME front springs with the stock shackles a couple months back and thought I’d add to the thread. Hopefully you’ve got it done already but maybe this will help the next person.
I disconnected the torque rod, the brake lines, and the drag link (which I cleaned and inspected while it was off). With everything disconnected I was able to drop the axle way down and get everything bolted up with out much issue.
I read somewhere that it was easier to install the front (fixed pin) side of the spring first so I slid the pin in and threaded the nut a couple of turns so it wouldn’t fall off. Then I put the shackle half way into the other end of the leaf spring and finally put the shackle into the frame and pushed the shackle all the way in before torquing everything down. That seemed to work best for me.
Happy Trails,
Winky
I disconnected the torque rod, the brake lines, and the drag link (which I cleaned and inspected while it was off). With everything disconnected I was able to drop the axle way down and get everything bolted up with out much issue.
I read somewhere that it was easier to install the front (fixed pin) side of the spring first so I slid the pin in and threaded the nut a couple of turns so it wouldn’t fall off. Then I put the shackle half way into the other end of the leaf spring and finally put the shackle into the frame and pushed the shackle all the way in before torquing everything down. That seemed to work best for me.
Happy Trails,
Winky
#11
Good job getting the front done! I have the same setup on my 85 and it was a real challenge getting everything on. Winky's method is definitely the way. Just a heads up on a few things... getting the rear shackles out could be a mutha, a torch, vise-wrench, and hammer are your friend. Avoid cutting the bushings or anything that might nic/mar the bushing tube in the frame. Also, the ride on these springs are very stiff unless weighted down. I couldn't run longer front shackles because the shock travel wasn't long enough, sounds like you put the stock ones back in already anyway. But the rear you might want to consider new shackles to get the right angle/flex.
#12
Good job getting the front done! I have the same setup on my 85 and it was a real challenge getting everything on. Winky's method is definitely the way. Just a heads up on a few things... getting the rear shackles out could be a mutha, a torch, vise-wrench, and hammer are your friend. Avoid cutting the bushings or anything that might nic/mar the bushing tube in the frame. Also, the ride on these springs are very stiff unless weighted down. I couldn't run longer front shackles because the shock travel wasn't long enough, sounds like you put the stock ones back in already anyway. But the rear you might want to consider new shackles to get the right angle/flex.
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