I've got an 89 4x4 pickup with a 22re with a 5-speed....

I learned (the hard way) that the engine is not original and had been replaced with a 22re from a 1990.

Recently I purchased a transfer case mounted ebrake setup... only to discover that it wouldn't fit my truck because I have a chain driven transfer case.

Am I correct that the chain style t-case only came on V6 models? If that's so then am I also to assume that I most likely have a V6 transmission as well?

I haven't been able to find any information on how someone could get a chain style case on a 4cyl and most of the information related to transmission identification is based on the assumption that you're running original equipment. based on this page http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts/ I'm assuming I have a G58 or an R150F but it doesn't give me any indication as to what identifies one over the other, or if other transmissions could even bolt up outside of factory setups.

Is there any features on the transmission I should be looking for to determine what it is I've got?

I ask because I'd like to swap to a different motor at some point but it's particularly difficult to research transmission compatibility if I don't even know what I've got. :-/

 

is it a top-shift or forward-shift t-case? top: r150, forward: g58

r150:


g58:

 

You can also go to Marlin Crawlers website, they have pics of about every tranny you can think of, might help you figure out what you got, it also tells you what years the tranny was available, here's a link, hope it helps, good luck!

http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmi...built-complete

 

marlin's pictures don't line up with what the actual transmissions are. like, the r150; on marlin's page, the picture is of a forward-shift, while it's actually top-shift.

 

thanks for the pics! I'll give it a closer look tonight.

 

the r150 i posted is a right-hand drive, so it's the mirror-image of the actual thing. look at the top shifter plates. if you have 2 separate shifter bases, r150. if it's 1 base holding both shifters, g58

 

You have a W56C transmission. I just replaced mine last week on my 89 22re 5speed 4x4. The factory used the C series on the 89-91 models with 22re. Assuming you don't have any kind of adapter plates or weird clutch-housing or anything that should be what you have.



Here's a top-view of the new W56C that I just got. Pull your shifter off and compare it.

is it possible you have an aftermarket transfer case?

 

I've confirmed the t-case is a VF1A (based on comparing mine to various pics online)

I do know that the clutch-slave is on the passenger's side, that's about all I know until I have a chance to take a closer look at some of the defining features mentioned above.

I would suspect that the transmissions are marked with their model number somewhere aren't they? where would I find that?

 

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...-speed-137933/

Try this and see if it makes sense to you.

If I'm reading it right and you do have a VF1A transfer case you may have a R151F transmission (from a 22RET truck) in yours. I don't know if you can put the tubo trans on a non-turbo engine tho.

If that's what you have then it sounds like somebody really pieced that truck together when they did the engine swap.

 

^threads like that are really the source of my confusion. "really pieced together" doesn't even begin to describe my truck... I've owned it for a couple of years now and every time I go to upgrade or repair something there are STILL unexpected "surprises" waiting for me.

 

I was pretty confused with that thread too. I'm no good at all with 'this transmission can be swapped with this one' or 'you can put this transfer case on if you change this' kinda thing.

If you're anything like me you'll keep replacing parts until you eventually have a NEW 23 year old truck.

 

Irab88, that transmission you have labeled g58 looks IDENTICAL to the W56C I pulled out of mine last week. I don't think what you have there is right.

 

well I finally had some free day light to check under the truck and to my surprise my transmission looks like NEITHER of the transmissions that irab88 posted

it had the sensor on the side like the R150, I'm pretty sure it's a front shift setup but almost no defining features of those transmissions match whats in my truck. :-/

 

Does yours have a rubber plug in the bottom center of the bell housing? That's the only external way I know to identify a turbo tranny. R151F. The G's and the W's are very similar externally. Internally is where the beef shows on the W's. They have better synchros and larger bearings, from what I was told, that make them stronger than the G's.

But you did say you have a chain driven t-case, and I don't think the R151F (turbo 22RE--{22RET}) came with a chain driven case. Not to say it wouldnt bolt up, but I don't know...

 

easiest way to tell a gear driven case from a chain driven is by the bolts on the rear of the output cover:


http://www.trail-gear.com/assembled-t-cases
"Transfer cases that use a chain to connect the front drive are called "chain drive" style transfer cases. Transfer cases that do not have a chain and use direct gear contact are called "gear drive" transfer cases. Transfer cases installed into trucks with automatic transmission, and/or V6 engines are usually chain drive style. Some later model 4Runners with a manual transmission and a w58 transmission also have a chain drive case. Determining if a transfer case is chain or gear driven within this year range is easy to do by looking at the rear cover of the case and counting the number of bolts holding the cover in place. If the cover has 7 bolts (as shown in photo) it is a gear driven case. If the rear cover has 5 bolts then it is a chain drive style case."

 

@dropzone: I've already determined that I have a chain style transfer case, I'm trying to identify the transmission that's in front of it.

I snapped some pics:

 

I just got an early 1984 Hilux 4x4 (made in '83, carburetor 22R) and I'd like to ID the transmission, which is still in the truck. Is there a tag, or ID on the typical Hilux transmission that I can look for? Looking at photos on the Internet isn't working for me.

Thanks,

Lonnie

 

the trans in my '86 4runner had a number stamped on the bottom of it, but when i was ordering a rebuilt trans from marlin, the numbers didn't jive with anything... the trans was not original equipment for an '86.

do you know if the trans that is in the truck is what it came with from the factory? here is the body i.d. plate that tells what the truck was built with: http://www.lcengineering.com/LCTechP...ARJANUARY.html

 

@OSV

Thanks very much. I found the plate shown below on the firewall of my truck. The truck has only had 4 owners including me, and it looks to be very original. So, I'm going to assume it's the original tranny. Using the examples at the website you provided I make it to be a G52 transmission with differentials (code G292) of 8" and 4.10 gears.

I don't know what the other codes mean yet, but the two above are the essential ones for me right now.

Cheers,



Gear code and VIN plate from the engine compartment.

 

g52 sounds right for an '84...http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts/

now that you know what it should look like, you could match it against the marlin pics

i don't see too many old toyotas in carlsbad, there is a guy on tamarack, across from the high school, who has a first gen 4runner.