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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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and its still over heating... water pump?

Ok so my radiator exploded on my 1993 4x4 3.0 v6 pickup the other morning and I just got done putting a new radiator, thermostat and cap I fired it up let it run for about 15 minutes and its still over heating, there are no water leaks but there has to be something else how can I tell if its the water pump? And any suggestions of an easy way to change the oil pan gasket?
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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take off your radiator cap....run a garden hose into your radiator. turn on the hise and let it run....start the truck...let it run....if it gets hot with the hose running in there....its the water pump. If it stays cool....check therm....

Is it losing coolant?
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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I would replace the thermostat first before the water pump.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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I changed the thermostat when I did the radiator, and its not losing coolant, and the upper hose feels soft when i squeze it while its running...
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HighLux
take off your radiator cap....run a garden hose into your radiator. turn on the hise and let it run....start the truck...let it run....if it gets hot with the hose running in there....its the water pump. If it stays cool....check therm....

Is it losing coolant?
How would that work? Because if the thermostat is stuck closed - the cooler water would never get into the block from the radiator. I'd say take the thermostat out and run it without the thermostat - that would isolate the water pump too.
There could just be air in the system too. To make sure all of the air is out (and to test the thermostat as well): On a cold start - take the radiator cap off, start the engine and then put the cap back on when you notice the water starting to move (thermostat opening).
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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fan clutch, head gasket
2 other culprits to add.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Oh...that was me thinking...then stopping mid sentence...then some more babbling and such. LOL
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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Ok so I let it sit for a while to let it cool back down, filled it with some more water started it again and slowly added water while it was running, it seem to be pulling water just fine, but I look at the rear of the truck for the first time after fixing it.and notice white steam/fog from the exaust ( almost look like a fog machine under the back of my truck) and then i looked under the truck to see if there were any wet spots and there it was a drip but not from anything I touched, it was dripping off the exaust, so I followed the leak and it seems to be coming from somewhere at the top of the exaust... should i just assume that the head gasket is toast or could it be something else?
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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White steam out of the exhaust on a 3.0 would definitely be a red flag for the head gasket for me. Especially since you said it overheated. Or the radiator exploded or whatever. You might be losing exhaust gases into your coolant or coolant out the exhaust or both.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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Ok so I let it sit for a while to let it cool back down, filled it with some more water started it again and slowly added water while it was running, it seem to be pulling water just fine, but I look at the rear of the truck for the first time after fixing it.and notice white steam/fog from the exaust ( almost look like a fog machine under the back of my truck) and then i looked under the truck to see if there were any wet spots and there it was a drip but not from anything I touched, it was dripping off the exaust, so I followed the leak and it seems to be coming from somewhere at the top of the exaust... should i just assume that the head gasket is toast or could it be something else?
From what your saying here, you have a blown head gasket.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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Yeah, a fog machine is bad news, that's just what my old 95 3.0 turned into when the head gasket blew.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 12:00 AM
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plastic cap rad explodes on a 3Vz and it needs a head gasket... What a shock.


post #6 FTW.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by aharde-
Ok so I let it sit for a while to let it cool back down, filled it with some more water started it again and slowly added water while it was running, it seem to be pulling water just fine, but I look at the rear of the truck for the first time after fixing it.and notice white steam/fog from the exaust ( almost look like a fog machine under the back of my truck) and then i looked under the truck to see if there were any wet spots and there it was a drip but not from anything I touched, it was dripping off the exaust, so I followed the leak and it seems to be coming from somewhere at the top of the exaust... should i just assume that the head gasket is toast or could it be something else?

You're learning these 3.0h's are some fickle beasts...

Now make sure you have your heads done while they're off in case you've burned a valve or something...

These things are not Chevy motors... They can't shrug a heat spike off.


Use only Toyota OEM head gaskets if you're wondering...

Either go to Toyota and buy them, or call this guy: Cruiser Dan at American Toyota Phone is 1-800-432-6668 ext. 8. Pay what they want as they're far better quality than ANYTHING you can buy after market.

OEM, belts, pumps, gaskets, etc...

No after market parts are higher quality. And the 3Vz does not take kindly to inferior parts.

Last edited by tried4x2signN; Sep 11, 2010 at 12:08 AM.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HighLux
Oh...that was me thinking...then stopping mid sentence...then some more babbling and such. LOL
My favorite method of troubleshooting.....


(I've nothing to contribute. Just had to reply to this...bahaha)
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