Pricing on my Full Build of my Toy
Jan 14, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Pricing on my Full Build of my Toy
I have a 94 toyota pu 4x4, and Im planning to do a full built truck, SAS, Chevy rear springs etc., I did some pricing and I was wondering if I missed anything and if theres anything else I can go cheaper on, anything.
suspesion
SAS
1.Trail Gear front Spring Hanger kit(Shackles, frome jigs, tube, hanger)= $150
2.Trail Gear High Steer = $369
3.Trail Gear steering stabilizer kit = $79
4.Ford Shock towers = $22
5.Stock Rear Springs Free!
6.Trail Gear Rotors and Pads(Front) = $80
7.Trail Gear Extended Brake lines (2 front/ 1 rear) = $69
8. Trail Gear U-bolt flip kit = $49
9. Trail Gear Bump Stops Package = $35
10.Solid Toyota Axel 83-85 = $100
11.Custom Square Driveshaft = $ 10
12.Wheel Spacers =$60
13.Knuckle Rebuild Kit = $75
14.Pro-Comp ES 9000 Shcoks front and rear = $120
Rear
1.Chevy Springs =$65
2.Brake Shoes = $20
3.Rear Spring hangers custom = $5
4.Bump Stop Set = $35
5.Double Shackle Set-up = $5
6.FabnStuff rear universal shock tower = $30
Gears, Lockers, Transfer Case
1.Front And Rear 5.29 Gearing = $278
2.Lock-Rite Locker Front and Rear = $438
3.Trail Gears Transfer Case 4.70 Gears = $349
4.Labor of installing diff gears ~ $200
Armor
1.Trail Gear Front and Rear Diff. Large Armor = $58
2.Trail Gear Upper Axel Armor = $25
3. Custom Sliders = $40
4. Custom Rear Bumper = $30
Already have a front bumper
Tires Wheels
1.35x12.50x15 BFG Mud Terrain
2. Steel Black Wheels ~$1000
Misc.
1.Paint = $60
2.Random Crap =$50
TOTAL=$3906
I think that covers just about everything, seems like a good build to me, let me know if I over priced or underpriced, things I dont need, thingd that I could make, anything thats cheaper, anything I need to save $$$, Thanks
suspesion
SAS
1.Trail Gear front Spring Hanger kit(Shackles, frome jigs, tube, hanger)= $150
2.Trail Gear High Steer = $369
3.Trail Gear steering stabilizer kit = $79
4.Ford Shock towers = $22
5.Stock Rear Springs Free!
6.Trail Gear Rotors and Pads(Front) = $80
7.Trail Gear Extended Brake lines (2 front/ 1 rear) = $69
8. Trail Gear U-bolt flip kit = $49
9. Trail Gear Bump Stops Package = $35
10.Solid Toyota Axel 83-85 = $100
11.Custom Square Driveshaft = $ 10
12.Wheel Spacers =$60
13.Knuckle Rebuild Kit = $75
14.Pro-Comp ES 9000 Shcoks front and rear = $120
Rear
1.Chevy Springs =$65
2.Brake Shoes = $20
3.Rear Spring hangers custom = $5
4.Bump Stop Set = $35
5.Double Shackle Set-up = $5
6.FabnStuff rear universal shock tower = $30
Gears, Lockers, Transfer Case
1.Front And Rear 5.29 Gearing = $278
2.Lock-Rite Locker Front and Rear = $438
3.Trail Gears Transfer Case 4.70 Gears = $349
4.Labor of installing diff gears ~ $200
Armor
1.Trail Gear Front and Rear Diff. Large Armor = $58
2.Trail Gear Upper Axel Armor = $25
3. Custom Sliders = $40
4. Custom Rear Bumper = $30
Already have a front bumper
Tires Wheels
1.35x12.50x15 BFG Mud Terrain
2. Steel Black Wheels ~$1000
Misc.
1.Paint = $60
2.Random Crap =$50
TOTAL=$3906
I think that covers just about everything, seems like a good build to me, let me know if I over priced or underpriced, things I dont need, thingd that I could make, anything thats cheaper, anything I need to save $$$, Thanks
Jan 14, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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more for an axle, and a tc skid, if your going to wheel hard, dont lock the front, unless you go longs or selectable locker. you can also make your own bumpstop extenders.
otherwise, mine is gonna run me 4000 with everything. im doing kits though
ive got 2000 in sas, trail gear front and rear spring kit, and 400 to get the axle setup
i will have 4.88s with an arb soon. and im not gonna lock the front for a while...
tcase gears.
Im hoping to score a winch for my birfday.
everything is trail gear except sliders/rear bumper (custom) and front bumper which will be allpro 500
the rest is misc. junk like paint, fluids, grinder discs, welding wire, and other junk.
im gonna get about 600 in tires (some used with about 80% or more)
otherwise, mine is gonna run me 4000 with everything. im doing kits though
ive got 2000 in sas, trail gear front and rear spring kit, and 400 to get the axle setup
i will have 4.88s with an arb soon. and im not gonna lock the front for a while...
tcase gears.
Im hoping to score a winch for my birfday.
everything is trail gear except sliders/rear bumper (custom) and front bumper which will be allpro 500
the rest is misc. junk like paint, fluids, grinder discs, welding wire, and other junk.
im gonna get about 600 in tires (some used with about 80% or more)
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Jan 14, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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just do the tg ifs eliminator kit for 1099. for the front ti comes with all that you listed plus the rebuild kits for the junk axle your going to get even if you spend 300 on an axle. I am in mine about 3500-4000 and I already had the 5:29 and detriot in the rear that price includes all the little crap you don't think about.
The build up thread is http://www.nw-wheelers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6124
The build up thread is http://www.nw-wheelers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6124
Jan 14, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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I have a 94 toyota pu 4x4, and Im planning to do a full built truck, SAS, Chevy rear springs etc., I did some pricing and I was wondering if I missed anything and if theres anything else I can go cheaper on, anything.
suspesion
SAS
1.Trail Gear front Spring Hanger kit(Shackles, frome jigs, tube, hanger)= $150 KIT
2.Trail Gear High Steer = $369 KIT
3.Trail Gear steering stabilizer kit = $79 KIT
4.Ford Shock towers = $22 not braced get the shock hoops in the KIT
5.Stock Rear Springs Free!
6.Trail Gear Rotors and Pads(Front) = $80 Try $100
7.Trail Gear Extended Brake lines (2 front/ 1 rear) = $69 KIT
8. Trail Gear U-bolt flip kit = $49 KIT
9. Trail Gear Bump Stops Package = $35 KIT
10.Solid Toyota Axel 83-85 = $100 lucky if you find one so cheap
11.Custom Square Driveshaft = $ 10 this will suck if you ever drive on-road
12.Wheel Spacers =$60 KIT and cheapest ones are $79
13.Knuckle Rebuild Kit = $75 KIT and you'll need wheel bearings so try $145
14.Pro-Comp ES 9000 Shcoks front and rear = $120 Cheapo - KIT
Rear
1.Chevy Springs =$65
2.Brake Shoes = $20
3.Rear Spring hangers custom = $5
4.Bump Stop Set = $35
5.Double Shackle Set-up = $5
6.FabnStuff rear universal shock tower = $30
Gears, Lockers, Transfer Case
1.Front And Rear 5.29 Gearing = $278 High on price but with no installation included
2.Lock-Rite Locker Front and Rear = $438
3.Trail Gears Transfer Case 4.70 Gears = $349 You'll need an adapter too so add $299+ and a new crossmember $199
4.Labor of installing diff gears ~ $200 LOW
Armor
1.Trail Gear Front and Rear Diff. Large Armor = $58 KIT
2.Trail Gear Upper Axel Armor = $25 KIT
3. Custom Sliders = $40 You can't even buy material for that...
4. Custom Rear Bumper = $30 ditto
Already have a front bumper
Tires Wheels
1.35x12.50x15 BFG Mud Terrain
2. Steel Black Wheels ~$1000 more like $1500
Misc.
1.Paint = $60
2.Random Crap =$50 this will be more like $300 for grease, fluids and consumable/incidentals
TOTAL=$3906
I think that covers just about everything, seems like a good build to me, let me know if I over priced or underpriced, things I dont need, thingd that I could make, anything thats cheaper, anything I need to save $$$, Thanks
suspesion
SAS
1.Trail Gear front Spring Hanger kit(Shackles, frome jigs, tube, hanger)= $150 KIT
2.Trail Gear High Steer = $369 KIT
3.Trail Gear steering stabilizer kit = $79 KIT
4.Ford Shock towers = $22 not braced get the shock hoops in the KIT
5.Stock Rear Springs Free!
6.Trail Gear Rotors and Pads(Front) = $80 Try $100
7.Trail Gear Extended Brake lines (2 front/ 1 rear) = $69 KIT
8. Trail Gear U-bolt flip kit = $49 KIT
9. Trail Gear Bump Stops Package = $35 KIT
10.Solid Toyota Axel 83-85 = $100 lucky if you find one so cheap
11.Custom Square Driveshaft = $ 10 this will suck if you ever drive on-road
12.Wheel Spacers =$60 KIT and cheapest ones are $79
13.Knuckle Rebuild Kit = $75 KIT and you'll need wheel bearings so try $145
14.Pro-Comp ES 9000 Shcoks front and rear = $120 Cheapo - KIT
Rear
1.Chevy Springs =$65
2.Brake Shoes = $20
3.Rear Spring hangers custom = $5
4.Bump Stop Set = $35
5.Double Shackle Set-up = $5
6.FabnStuff rear universal shock tower = $30
Gears, Lockers, Transfer Case
1.Front And Rear 5.29 Gearing = $278 High on price but with no installation included
2.Lock-Rite Locker Front and Rear = $438
3.Trail Gears Transfer Case 4.70 Gears = $349 You'll need an adapter too so add $299+ and a new crossmember $199
4.Labor of installing diff gears ~ $200 LOW
Armor
1.Trail Gear Front and Rear Diff. Large Armor = $58 KIT
2.Trail Gear Upper Axel Armor = $25 KIT
3. Custom Sliders = $40 You can't even buy material for that...
4. Custom Rear Bumper = $30 ditto
Already have a front bumper
Tires Wheels
1.35x12.50x15 BFG Mud Terrain
2. Steel Black Wheels ~$1000 more like $1500
Misc.
1.Paint = $60
2.Random Crap =$50 this will be more like $300 for grease, fluids and consumable/incidentals
TOTAL=$3906
I think that covers just about everything, seems like a good build to me, let me know if I over priced or underpriced, things I dont need, thingd that I could make, anything thats cheaper, anything I need to save $$$, Thanks
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Jan 14, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Brother used the ford shock hoops on a project awhile back. Didn't work out all that good. Better options out there. Good luck on the axle it will take some serious searching but its possible. When i researched this for the 90, i was going with the TG kit and Sky manuf ifs spacer kit ( http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/ ) .
lots of good info out there just a matter of digging it up.
lots of good info out there just a matter of digging it up.
Jan 14, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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If your buying soon buy Marlins Kit. It's on sale and has USA springs. Trail-Gears springs are ok but if I had it to do over again I'd spent the little extra and got the USA springs.
I personaly like BigRocksOffRoad.com US springs. They spent the work on designing there springs and have a super spring.
On a side note. If your spending the money SASing the reg cab truck - I'd rethink it and get an extra cab to spend the money. The little extra room makes a HUGE difference.
Just my 2 pennies.
Jan 14, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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Suspesion
SAS
1.Trail Gear IFS Eliminator kit and unversal shock mount for rear shipped to my door=$999 got some connections
2.Solid Axel Toyota 83-85 = $150
3.Square Drivshaft, front only = $10
Rear
1.Chevy Springs =$65
2.Brake Shoes = $20
3.Rear Spring hangers custom = $5
4.Bump Stop Set = $35
5.Double Shackle Set-up(custom shacks) = $5
6.U-bolt flip kit = $49
7.Shock monts on axel =$28
8.Shocks Pro-comp es9000 =$60
Gears, Lockers, Transfer Case
1.Front And Rear 5.29 Gearing = $278
2.Lock-Rite Locker Front and Rear = $438
3.Trail Gears Transfer Case 4.70 Gears = $349
Im Running Single Case NOT Dual so dont say I need an adapator, just replacing gears
4.Labor of installing diff gears ~ $200
Armor
1.Trail Gear Rear Diff. Large Armor = $29
2.Custom Sliders = $30
3.Custom Rear Bumper = $40
Already have a front bumper
Tires Wheels
1.35x12.50x15 BFG Mud Terrain on Steel Black Wheels used 75%-85% tread left ~$600
Misc.
1.Paint = $60
2.Random Crap =$50
TOTAL= $3500 Flat! Sweet! but it never come out like that so after the small stuff ~$3700
Redid the list with some other things, please let me know if I can go cheaper, money saving is a must, tight budget
Suggeations or anything would help, thanks
SAS
1.Trail Gear IFS Eliminator kit and unversal shock mount for rear shipped to my door=$999 got some connections
2.Solid Axel Toyota 83-85 = $150
3.Square Drivshaft, front only = $10
Rear
1.Chevy Springs =$65
2.Brake Shoes = $20
3.Rear Spring hangers custom = $5
4.Bump Stop Set = $35
5.Double Shackle Set-up(custom shacks) = $5
6.U-bolt flip kit = $49
7.Shock monts on axel =$28
8.Shocks Pro-comp es9000 =$60
Gears, Lockers, Transfer Case
1.Front And Rear 5.29 Gearing = $278
2.Lock-Rite Locker Front and Rear = $438
3.Trail Gears Transfer Case 4.70 Gears = $349
Im Running Single Case NOT Dual so dont say I need an adapator, just replacing gears
4.Labor of installing diff gears ~ $200
Armor
1.Trail Gear Rear Diff. Large Armor = $29
2.Custom Sliders = $30
3.Custom Rear Bumper = $40
Already have a front bumper
Tires Wheels
1.35x12.50x15 BFG Mud Terrain on Steel Black Wheels used 75%-85% tread left ~$600
Misc.
1.Paint = $60
2.Random Crap =$50
TOTAL= $3500 Flat! Sweet! but it never come out like that so after the small stuff ~$3700
Redid the list with some other things, please let me know if I can go cheaper, money saving is a must, tight budget
Suggeations or anything would help, thanks
Jan 14, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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Hey, just because were on the subject and I dont feel like making a new thread, you think I can install all the stuff above in a full 9 day week (2 weekends, 5 weekdays) because I have spring break in April and get a whole week off.
Jan 14, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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I did my front in 4 days and the rear (4Runner) in 3 days. I had a friends help.
Jan 14, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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O cool, definetly make the end of spring break my deadline, Ill have an extra 2 days from what you had and Ill have a friend thats gonna help me with tourching and welding so I'll definetly be good, I guess memorial day will be my big run, hopefully there will be some kind of gathering out in Johson Valley cause I only live 45 min. from there, I willl make it up through the hammers by SUMMER!
Jan 14, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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good luck....things always pop up out of nowhere and end up costing some $$. I think when I first did mine, I was about $4500 (5.29's, locked f+r, and I paid for the welding and cutting (i'm a computer geek)) but I blew up my front diff on the first trail and had to replace my rear gears 10K miles later. You should try to budget 30 spline longfields into the mix if you can. I almost think 30 spline longs should be a necessity on any SAS parts list.
Jan 14, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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O cool, definetly make the end of spring break my deadline, Ill have an extra 2 days from what you had and Ill have a friend thats gonna help me with tourching and welding so I'll definetly be good, I guess memorial day will be my big run, hopefully there will be some kind of gathering out in Johson Valley cause I only live 45 min. from there, I willl make it up through the hammers by SUMMER!
Jan 14, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Are you breaking birfs that easily? or is it axels, Never heard of this happening but I've just got into serious four wheeling about 3 months ago, are the stock ones that weak, what broke the most, bell? Ring Stub? axel? and what kind of locker are you running?
Jan 14, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Jan 14, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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Wheel stock axles at your own risk.
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Jan 14, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Yea I agree and I belive putting down tracion with no spin rather spinning the wheels and then making them come to hault instanly will break axels birfields, high gearing will solve that so you can take it nice and slow and be technical instead of gasing youre way through, I found doing that usally just breaks stuff.
