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Jan 14, 2007 | 09:28 PM

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Morphine

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If you are doing this at your place I'd love to come and lend a hand or two! Also where did you source your chevy rear leafs for $65??? Do you have a hook up? I keep coming across the pick a parts for $100 to $150!!!! If you have a source I'll pickup a set and then come and help with your build, then we can throw some chevy's on my rear!!! Let me know, sounds like you have a solid plan set there for your build.

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Jan 14, 2007 | 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 91_4x4runner

I don't think that using stock rear springs up front will net you much articulation, which is what you are going for isn't it?

Right............................................. .................................. check the pirate4x4.com faq, the most common cheap sas is rears up front, and chevy rears, with a square dshaft, then you spend the dough on the axles and drivetrain.

Jan 14, 2007 | 09:45 PM

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To Morphine: I put up a wtb thread on pirate4x4 and some guy offered them for 65 bucks, Didnt take them because I thought I was going to do a fully blown out crazy long travel insane rear suspension but we all have dreams right, so I thought chevies would be a little more practical for now considering a budget, but sounds like a plan, Ill gather parts and start this project on the begining of spring break, so late April, and I will definetly help with youre rears, Ill check out my local pick and pull for some too hopefully that guy still has them, you wouldnt happen to have tourches and a descent welder? If you do that would be great too becuase I dont want to go hunt down some tourches, I have a 90amp mig welder but something with a little more power will be a little more suitable for this project, but if not I could always use a helping hand definetly on this kind of a project and yes it will be at my house. Thanks for the offer.

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Jan 14, 2007 | 09:57 PM

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Sorry no hook up on tools! Just a ready and willing body. Yeah if you find a set of Chevies for that please let me know as I'll take them off your hands or reimburse you. But I'll keep my schedule open and will at least make it up for one day if not more!
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Jan 14, 2007 | 10:13 PM

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Ill definetly keep you informed if its a go or a no, it just all depends if I can sell my street bike sold by april which is like 98% chance of it happening Im going to list it for sale hopefully this weekend, but thanks for the helping hands, I'll check out some places for springs, Ill keep you informed.
-Kevin

Jan 14, 2007 | 10:20 PM

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I have the same truck. Try to take some snapshots so that I know exactly what our trucks look like under the knife. I have plans similar to yours scheduled for sometime this summer. I'd like to perform an SAS and gain around 6" of lift front and rear, plus add lockers w/5.26's. It's the Rubicon that I want to shame. That thing with stock 31's is just sitting too low. And, at a stock 190 hp, I think that some machine shop tech can match me on the weight to hp ratio.

Make sure that you call Sonoran Steel. I got Steve's shackles the other day and found out that we wheel the same truck also. He can definitely steer you in the right direction to break your rig down and build it up again to get it rolling with the least amount of headache. The guys at Sonoran Steel have the experience, knowledge, and hookups to Get-R-Done right the first time. And, all of the guys on here agree, "Do it right the first time"-Good Luck

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Jan 14, 2007 | 10:25 PM

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Hey guys I need to gain some skills on welding, do you think if I aquire the right skills for welding on a mig, will a 90amp mig be suitable for this SAS? And how can I aquire some fabrcation skills before April, without taking classes cause Im trying to save up for SAS, maybe theres a website with tips, I dont know but anything will help, I can weld its just the welds are sloppy and about 50% of the time they dont hold and end up redoing them, so any suggestions will help?

Jan 14, 2007 | 10:33 PM

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I have the same truck. Try to take some snapshots so that I know exactly what our trucks look like under the knife. I have plans similar to yours scheduled for sometime this summer. I'd like to perform an SAS and gain around 6" of lift front and rear, plus add lockers w/5.26's. It's the Rubicon that I want to shame. That thing with stock 31's is just sitting too low. And, at a stock 190 hp, I think that some machine shop tech can match me on the weight to hp ratio.

Make sure that you call Wab-Fab. I got Steve's shackles the other day and found out that we wheel the same truck also. He can definitely steer you in the right direction to break your rig down and build it up again to get it rolling with the least amount of headache. The guys at Wab-Fab have the experience, knowledge, and hookups to Get-R-Done right the first time. And, all of the guys on here agree, "Do it right the first time"-Good Luck

Yea I rolled 31's in Johson Valley if you know about Johson Valley, but anywho I took a trail that I had no buisness taking and luckly made it, our trucks are pretty Identical except for my welded rear diff and a tube front bumper and fiberglass front and rear, I also have 139k on it

but thanks for the advice Ill definetly call wab-fab. Ill get some pic in April just look for my thread when I start it, Ill have the average build up thread.

Jan 14, 2007 | 10:36 PM

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Fixed it for ya!!

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Originally Posted by 94toyota4x4

I have a 94 toyota pu 4x4, and Im planning to do a full built truck, SAS, Chevy rear springs etc., I did some pricing and I was wondering if I missed anything and if theres anything else I can go cheaper on, anything.

suspesion
SAS
1.Trail Gear front Spring Hanger kit(Shackles, frome jigs, tube, hanger)= $150
2.Trail Gear High Steer = $369
3.Trail Gear steering stabilizer kit = $79
4.Ford Shock towers = $22
5.Stock Rear Springs Free!
6.Trail Gear Rotors and Pads(Front) = $80
7.Trail Gear Extended Brake lines (2 front/ 1 rear) = $69
8. Trail Gear U-bolt flip kit = $49
9. Trail Gear Bump Stops Package = $35
10.Solid Toyota Axel 83-85 = $100
11.Custom Square Driveshaft = $ 10
12.Wheel Spacers =$60
13.Knuckle Rebuild Kit = $75
14.Pro-Comp ES 9000 Shcoks front and rear = $120
Rear
1.Chevy Springs =$65
2.Brake Shoes = $20
3.Rear Spring hangers custom = $5
4.Bump Stop Set = $35
5.Double Shackle Set-up = $5
6.FabnStuff rear universal shock tower = $30

Gears, Lockers, Transfer Case
1.Front And Rear 5.29 Gearing = $278
2.Lock-Rite Locker Front and Rear = $438
3.Trail Gears Transfer Case 4.70 Gears = $349
4.Labor of installing diff gears ~ $200

Armor
1.Trail Gear Front and Rear Diff. Large Armor = $58
2.Trail Gear Upper Axel Armor = $25
3. Custom Sliders = $40
4. Custom Rear Bumper = $30
Already have a front bumper

Tires Wheels
1.35x12.50x15 BFG Mud Terrain
2. Steel Black Wheels ~$1000

Misc.
1.Paint = $60
2.Random Crap =$50
3.Beer =$150
4.Pizza =$100
TOTAL=$4156

I think that covers just about everything, seems like a good build to me, let me know if I over priced or underpriced, things I dont need, thingd that I could make, anything thats cheaper, anything I need to save $$$, Thanks

Jan 14, 2007 | 10:58 PM

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DeathCougar = Your adjustments seem pretty light by my scale!!!!
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Jan 15, 2007 | 07:04 AM

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DO NOT BUY A LOCKRITE
DO NOT BUY A LOCKRITE
DO NOT BUY A LOCKRITE

I broke my third lockrite yesterday.
This is not internet heresay or repearter "I heard" posting, I broke MY third lockrite yesterday. Weld the rear and get a full Detroit for the front if you need to keep that budget.

Also, keep up with the for sale listings and try to find a whole 5.29 3rd with a locker already in it and you could save some $$. Add $100 for same extra stock birs too.

T.O.O.R.

Jan 15, 2007 | 10:14 AM

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Fixed it for ya!!

Well I do need to include food for the guys that are going to help me but as of pizza and beer, Im only 16 so beer most likely wont be going down my throat and for pizza Im lactose intolerant, so Im kinda screwed there

but it is a good thought lol.

Jan 15, 2007 | 10:16 AM

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Yea I would weld my third, I have it like that now, but the problem with that is it burns through tires like a mother.

Jan 15, 2007 | 01:43 PM

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Weld the front and Detroit on the rear then

Jan 15, 2007 | 03:25 PM

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Dude a welded front really sucks a**, turning is a complete b**** with the welded front end, Im just going to run lunchbox lockers for now, and eventualy move onto a detriot in both the front and rear, or maybe a locker in the rear and a truetrac up front.

Jan 15, 2007 | 05:55 PM

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~~~~~~peering into the future~~~~~~~
CLICK CLICK POWCLICKPOWPOWPOW SNAP

(from the side of the trail) "Hey man, your rear tires not spinning!"

(internal monologue)"DAMNIT! That Tached Out guy was right!"

Good luck

Jan 15, 2007 | 06:29 PM

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Take it easy on him T.O.O.R.

Jan 17, 2007 | 05:34 PM

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I know you dont want me too but Im going to run lunchboxes, Ill take it easy on the gas, torque is what usally ends up breaking things as long as I drive smart I'll be good.

Jan 22, 2007 | 05:49 PM

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Crap I have a dilema, I'm Lucky to have the good sides of both rockcrawling and prerunnung in my area, I got offered a front a-arm kit, 13 inches of travel, adjustable coilovers, the whole shabang to set up my front, its less than $2000, and I can drop down to a size 33" in tires since thats the biggest you want to go on a long travel kit, so let me rework this table, and let me know which one I should go with because I like both going fast through the desert and I also like rockcrawling so I dont know which one to go with. I just take my old table and take any SAS stuff away and put 1900, it comes out to like 4400 so I guess Im doin the SAS because I only have 4000 but still let me know what to go with.