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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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New shock placement

I have a 1986 2wd p/u and I am wanting to swap the leaf springs from below the axle to above so the back end will have around 3" of lift (it should make the truck look more agressive without having to buy a lift kit) The only problem is that the shocks mount to the plate that the U-bolts go through to hold the springs on. So I was wondering if there was a different place to mount the shocks. I can take pics if y'all want me to. Thanks, Sean
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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AH64ID did a /\ mount on his:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...uckWork005.jpg
As long as 1 end it attached to the frame and the other to the axle in a logical manner, the shock will do its job. What are you going to do about the front of the truck? Cranked t-bars? Also, make sure you dont over-extend the brake lines.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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I didn't plan on doing anything to the front, unless there is something similar I can do. Can you tell me what cranked t-bars are? (Sorry, I'm kinda new to this) All I know is the basic upkeep.
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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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ya know....since I don't really know anything about this, and it seems to be harder than I thought, nevermind....I can't do this without someone there to show me how to do it. oh well, thanks
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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You can put ball joint spacers up front (link to cranking torsion bars also on the page below):
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...ntSpacer.shtml

On the shocks, you could use a u-bolt flip kit like this:
- http://rockstomper.com/catalog/suspen/rear.htm

or I use this bolt-on shock mount:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_suspe...shtml#R-Shocks

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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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The torsion bars are your front springs. It's a bar that runs on top of the frame that twists when it compresses and releases.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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so if I buy these kits that 4Crawler posted, can I keep my stock shocks and springs?
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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With the Rockstomper kit, you can usually keep your existing rear shocks. They have bottom mounts on the top spring plate. You'll need a new pair of spring perches unless you plan to carefully cut your old ones off and re-weld them on top.
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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oh, ok how much do those cost?? and what about the front?
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hmmwv15
I have a 1986 2wd p/u and I am wanting to swap the leaf springs from below the axle to above so the back end will have around 3" of lift <SNIP>
That's called a spring over lift.
Those tend tol introduce a ton of axle wrap.
How do you plan to take care of that problem ?




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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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is that truck 2wd?????
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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i was wonderign the same thing
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Old Dec 3, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by customcruiser
is that truck 2wd?????
His profile states a 2wd.




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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 04:27 AM
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I don't plan on doing anything extreme in my 2wd, it is just a dd. All I'm wanting to do is find a cheaper way to get the thing off the ground. Sorry to be a pain in the A$$, but what is axle wrap, and if I need to fix it, how can I?

Maybe I should change my name to "Stock2wd" :pat:

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 05:22 AM
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Axle wrap - Caused by torque of the rear wheels twisting the leaf springs into a sort of "S" shape. This is unwanted suspension movement that allows the pinion angle to change.The springs twist and untwist rapidly, causing the rear to hop under power. Spring-over axle leaf setups are more prone to axle wrap than spring-under configurations. Shock placement, such as one shock facing forward and one facing backwords, is done to reduce wrap. Axle wrap is also increased by lift blocks.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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by cranking the t-bars and shaving the bumpstops I fit 35's (before my sas) It works just fine.



Oh your 2wd.... well youll still get the same amount of lift but since your starting point is so much lower then you wont fit 35's. But the point is still the same.

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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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so all in all, is it something I should do, or should I just keep it stock? like I said, all I want to accomplish is to get it lifted. The most I am going to be doing in it is baja-like stuff (dirt roads, mild jumping -emphasis on mild- really just going fast on dirt roads and tryin' to sling some gravel -emphasis on that too-) Oh, heres a good question- does anyone have any strong suggestions on the cheapest strong shocks for the front end for baja stuff. (I have seen an '84 baja-type truck -mostly stock- and the guy told me my truck has potential for the type of stuff i'll be doing) So yeah that was a LOT of typing. reply if your not asleep before the end
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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Sell it and buy a 4wd...
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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I would if it were worth more! I mean, if anyone has some spare change and pocket lint we can negotiate.... No seriously, I have thought about that so many times. I am just trying to make something out of it before it dies.....it's got 315,000 miles on it.
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Old Dec 4, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Then leave it alone, it only creates problems down the road if you modify your daily driver.
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