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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 09:51 PM
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Square tube rock sliders

Ive always disliked the look of round tube on my generation 4runner, so I tried to be a little different and build some sliders out of square tubing. I dont have as many pictures of these being built as i do for my bumper.
I used 2" 1/8" wall tubing for everything
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I caped the ends of all my tubing
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I ground all the welds flush on the back side of the kick out, the legs over to the frame are turned up 22.5* which i think is perfect, dont like when the sliders stick out to much. w/o a body lift, the legs will sit about an inch or so under the frame, with the 3/8" clearance i planned on giving, between the slider and bottom pinch weld. so i used 1/2" plate with a 1/2"x5/8" peg to sit underneath the frame. made mock up a heck of a lot easier too!
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heres a sucky picture of them when i got them back from powder coat, gloss black
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and heres how it is mounted to the frame
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Its single pass but with a 220 welder and 0.35 wire, theyre pretty stout! let me know what yall think!

Read more: http://bamaoffroadgroup.com/thread/2...#ixzz3G9piBHe3
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 05:59 AM
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Not to bad.

Why did you not stay with the 1/8" material to attach to the frame as well.

Then maybe it was the case of not having it in strip and using what you had.

Still not in the habit of rounding off sharp corners I see

What was the total cost with your labor figured in??
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 06:38 AM
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I'm in love! Those look tuff and very well done! I agree the square looks much better on the old body! Very nicely done sir. I too am curious what the cost ended up being.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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I admire your skill and that you strive to be different.

However, don't rely on those sliders as much as you would on round tube sliders. Square tubing is known to be much weaker. You probably won't notice with light wheeling, but in a high speed accident or if you crashed the weight of the truck on one slider, they'll likely bend.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Not to bad.

Why did you not stay with the 1/8" material to attach to the frame as well.

Then maybe it was the case of not having it in strip and using what you had.

Still not in the habit of rounding off sharp corners I see

What was the total cost with your labor figured in??
Well we had about 20' of 1/2"x4" and not very much of anything else that wasnt tread plate. I work at my families fabrication shop, and we mostly build machinery for foam and carpet mills. I had cut out and cleaned losts of stuff that we made for years but untill this last year i never attemted to build anything myself. Ive picked up on a few more tricks to clean things up and make them look better though, like sanding off sharp corners
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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Appreciate the complements guys! As far as the cost, i have $0 in these! We had the extra tubing in the shop, and we had a bunch of stuff (probably 4 tons of machinery) going to powder coat and I threw these in with it. Were probably ProCoat's(in Cleveland TN) biggest customer so the owner didnt charge extra for something as small as the sliders.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 12:04 PM
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My only critique is the part that hangs down under the frame. that seems like it would kind of defeat the slider purpose and act as a rock catcher. Other then that, they look good.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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Yes we all know

about building things with left overs .

But you need to learn how to do this it is part of the fabrication business .

Figure out what it costs for material figure out a shop rate you think you should get or use the business rate .

This way when people ask you to build them you have a understanding of what it will cost compared with what you should charge.

All in all not a bad job .
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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My only critique is the part that hangs down under the frame. that seems like it would kind of defeat the slider purpose and act as a rock catcher. Other then that, they look good.
Yeah I wish I would have done that differently now, but most of the time it's hitting in the sliders. The back 3 legs are 4" to 4.5" long, so 90% of the time it rides on the slider before it will catch the bottom of the plate. As far as the tabs under they are only 1.5" so if it's catching them than it doesn't have enough surface area to hold back the truck. I haven't had a problem so far
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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Looks good man. Any idea on what they weigh?
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
Yes we all know

about building things with left overs .

But you need to learn how to do this it is part of the fabrication business .

Figure out what it costs for material figure out a shop rate you think you should get or use the business rate .

This way when people ask you to build them you have a understanding of what it will cost compared with what you should charge.

All in all not a bad job .
Appreciate it man. I'm actually gonna build 3 sets this winter for some friends when I'm home from school. I'm in the process of figuring out the price of steel for them and I believe powder coat is anywhere from 50-80 dollars for something of that size. I'm charging them 150 for labor per set and the price of steel on top of that depending on what they want. I'll get back to y'all later, I'll figure everything in to get a rough price of what it would cost to build these
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 05:01 PM
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Looks good man. Any idea on what they weigh?
I didnt have an actual scale, i rekon close to 50-60lbs. i could awkwardly carry one in each hand for a short amount of time If that gives you any idea. My little 22re slightly noticed the difference in weight haha
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Old Oct 22, 2014 | 12:33 AM
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At $150.00 a set labor that means you can have a set ready to be powder coated in 3 hours .

Not to bad .

Did you save your cut list so you know what pieces to cut??
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Old Oct 22, 2014 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
At $150.00 a set labor that means you can have a set ready to be powder coated in 3 hours .

Not to bad .

Did you save your cut list so you know what pieces to cut??
Yes I have it. I can remember most of the measurements anyway, but I'm building them for 3 different vehicles that vary in length. I'm sure I'll have to make adjustments but nothing to hard to do.
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Old Feb 3, 2015 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wyoming9
Yes we all know

about building things with left overs .

But you need to learn how to do this it is part of the fabrication business .

Figure out what it costs for material figure out a shop rate you think you should get or use the business rate .

This way when people ask you to build them you have a understanding of what it will cost compared with what you should charge.

All in all not a bad job .
Typed this whole response and i wasnt logged in and it earased it so here goes take 2!
I built another set over my winter break for a 2011 single cab Taco. After building something for someone else I am starting to get the hang of pricing and profiting.
They were identical to the sliders i built wit the exception of 3/16"wall tubing for the legs and the full length piece that runs against the rocker pannel, as well as the mounts for them
He wanted them bolt on so took 1/4" plate and drilled my bolt holes in them and traced the holes onto a piece of 1/2" plate. I taped the 1/2" plate for 3/8 bolts. I welded the 1/4 to the legs and bolted the two plates together and set them aagainst the frame. Then tacked them on and unbolted the sliders so i could weld the 1/2" easier on the frame.Name:  CC9252EE-5204-45C5-AA85-C4B6B9A7F227_zpsfzncgt28.jpg
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This is the only picture i have of the way it was mounted sadly.
Anyways here is the total cost so everyone can get a good idea
$110 for tubing ($45 for 1/8"wall $65 for3/16 wall 20' each)
$100 for powder coat (Pro Coat Cleveland Tennesee)
$280 for labor is my price but i honestly dont know what a fab shop would charge.

Thanks for the tips and honesty!
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