Pitman arm clearance???
#1
Pitman arm clearance???
So my axle swap is done, but I have 2 issues..
When I compress the drivers side, after about 3 inches of up travel the pitman arm hits the steering arm...I basically see 3 choices.
1- get a custom pitman arm (that is my first choice)
2- relocate steering box (dont really want to)
3- put bumpstops so it can't go to that point(see next issue)
The other issue is I had a front driveshaft from an 85 lengthened...only I think they added too much tube..I only have about 1 1/4 inch of "up" travel
on the yoke. Is that going to be enough?
I guess I may need some beefy bumpstops...any recommendations?
Thanks for your advice...I have been all over the web looking
one more question..where can I get a pitman arm like this now??

Here is how mine looks
When I compress the drivers side, after about 3 inches of up travel the pitman arm hits the steering arm...I basically see 3 choices.
1- get a custom pitman arm (that is my first choice)
2- relocate steering box (dont really want to)
3- put bumpstops so it can't go to that point(see next issue)
The other issue is I had a front driveshaft from an 85 lengthened...only I think they added too much tube..I only have about 1 1/4 inch of "up" travel
on the yoke. Is that going to be enough?
I guess I may need some beefy bumpstops...any recommendations?
Thanks for your advice...I have been all over the web looking
one more question..where can I get a pitman arm like this now??

Here is how mine looks
Last edited by Marc P; Jul 8, 2006 at 10:01 PM.
#3
The question about limiting travel is important. You shouldn't have to bumpstop out travel because of shaft compression. On a low truck with limited compression anyway, it sounds like a waste.
I have a flatter pitman from Poly Performance.
Messing with moving the box is a pain for the benefit. On IFS trucks, just leave it be, don't move the axle that far forward and don't run supersized tires.
I have a flatter pitman from Poly Performance.
Messing with moving the box is a pain for the benefit. On IFS trucks, just leave it be, don't move the axle that far forward and don't run supersized tires.
#4
I am not sure how much uptravel I have. I am concerned with the amount of slip..the angle looks ok and I get no vibration with the hubs locked. When I told the guy at the driveline shop what I wanted, I am not sure he listened.
How can I test uptravel with both wheels at the same time?
I think you are right Adrian...I saw Poly and Sky have almost flat and flat pitman arms...I think that is all I need.
How can I test uptravel with both wheels at the same time?
I think you are right Adrian...I saw Poly and Sky have almost flat and flat pitman arms...I think that is all I need.
#5
If you have soem heavy duty cargo starp and a anchor on the ground, you can crank the front end down. But I doubt you have such a means.
Or you can get Andre the giant to sit on your front bumper.
ANothe roption is to lift your front end. Take the springs off of the shackles. Put a jack under the pumpkin and jack it up. Just a thought.
Or you can get Andre the giant to sit on your front bumper.
ANothe roption is to lift your front end. Take the springs off of the shackles. Put a jack under the pumpkin and jack it up. Just a thought.
#6
I have the exact same problem. Sky has a 3\4" drop pitman that I'll be trying. I guess thats what I get for trying to use the stock pitman. I thought it would work but I didn't get as much lift as I expected from my spring swap. I also haven't put my bumpstops on yet, because I don't know where my travel will stop at.
Last edited by Dingman; Jul 9, 2006 at 02:38 PM.
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#8
Here is my driveshaft....see the amount of "up" slip I am concerened with?
Here are more pics of the steering clearance issue..I am thinking different pitman arm, there is not much room to move the steering box forward...
Here are more pics of the steering clearance issue..I am thinking different pitman arm, there is not much room to move the steering box forward...
#9
On the spline travel, Will it slide all the way to the yellow mark before the arrow?, If it will, It looks like plenty of travel for the angle of the shaft.
Can you drop the shackles just to test that?
How about just changing the angle of the stering box? or with another pitman.
Can you drop the shackles just to test that?
How about just changing the angle of the stering box? or with another pitman.
#10
If you take out some leaves you can compress the suspension, but that sounds like a lot of work.
You could always do the math and calculate how for it should travel. Don't forget that the axle will also move backwards when compressed.
You could always do the math and calculate how for it should travel. Don't forget that the axle will also move backwards when compressed.
#11
Steve==you dont have issues with the pitman arm? or you just havent tried it? Seems like a chronic problem on our trucks.
I am going to bring my truck to the guy that lengthened the driveshaft to see what he thinks...I just think he did not listen to what I needed.
I am going to bring my truck to the guy that lengthened the driveshaft to see what he thinks...I just think he did not listen to what I needed.
#15
Could anyone that has a modified pitman arm post a pic for me, and give details?
Steve--could you post a pic of yours so I can see your bumpstop setup and how your pitman arm and steering arm line up?
Steve--could you post a pic of yours so I can see your bumpstop setup and how your pitman arm and steering arm line up?
Last edited by Marc P; Jul 11, 2006 at 05:02 AM.
#16
Here you go:
http://www.robinhood4x4.com/misc/bumpstop1.JPG
http://www.robinhood4x4.com/misc/bumpstop2.JPG
http://www.robinhood4x4.com/misc/bumpstop3.JPG
http://www.robinhood4x4.com/misc/bumpstop4.JPG
That's the best I can do without taking off my tire. It seems the zerk on the tie rod is about 1" in front of the centerline of the drag link.
http://www.robinhood4x4.com/misc/bumpstop1.JPG
http://www.robinhood4x4.com/misc/bumpstop2.JPG
http://www.robinhood4x4.com/misc/bumpstop3.JPG
http://www.robinhood4x4.com/misc/bumpstop4.JPG
That's the best I can do without taking off my tire. It seems the zerk on the tie rod is about 1" in front of the centerline of the drag link.
#20
Dude, I am really wondering what is causing all this.
Your set up is not exotic so the apparent HUGE issues seems out of whack.
Look hard for an arm that will bolt to what you have. If that doesn't work, move the box.
On V-6 trucks, you usually have to bumpstop that a long ways out before things hit anyway.
Your set up is not exotic so the apparent HUGE issues seems out of whack.
Look hard for an arm that will bolt to what you have. If that doesn't work, move the box.
On V-6 trucks, you usually have to bumpstop that a long ways out before things hit anyway.


