School me on fullsize axles
#1
School me on fullsize axles
<--I want to go fullsize with my truck. I also plan on swapping in a chevy 350 and a 5 speed.
I was thinking Dana 60 front/rear because I want it to be xtra tough and I was told that the Dana 60 was the best solution for a front axle. I'm pretty set on having 1 ton running gear...
But now I've been searching and see 12 bolt and 14 bolt rear axles for cheaper. What's the difference between Dana 44/60/70 and GM 10/12/14 bolt? I've searched but can't find much. On 4x4 trucks that had the 12 bolt and 14 bolt rear end, what was the front axle? And finally what gearing would I need for 70% offroad and 30% street?
Please enlighten my ignorance and let me know your suggestions.
I was thinking Dana 60 front/rear because I want it to be xtra tough and I was told that the Dana 60 was the best solution for a front axle. I'm pretty set on having 1 ton running gear...
But now I've been searching and see 12 bolt and 14 bolt rear axles for cheaper. What's the difference between Dana 44/60/70 and GM 10/12/14 bolt? I've searched but can't find much. On 4x4 trucks that had the 12 bolt and 14 bolt rear end, what was the front axle? And finally what gearing would I need for 70% offroad and 30% street?
Please enlighten my ignorance and let me know your suggestions.
#4
<--I want to go fullsize with my truck. I also plan on swapping in a chevy 350 and a 5 speed.
I was thinking Dana 60 front/rear because I want it to be xtra tough and I was told that the Dana 60 was the best solution for a front axle. I'm pretty set on having 1 ton running gear...
But now I've been searching and see 12 bolt and 14 bolt rear axles for cheaper. What's the difference between Dana 44/60/70 and GM 10/12/14 bolt? I've searched but can't find much. On 4x4 trucks that had the 12 bolt and 14 bolt rear end, what was the front axle? And finally what gearing would I need for 70% offroad and 30% street?
Please enlighten my ignorance and let me know your suggestions.
I was thinking Dana 60 front/rear because I want it to be xtra tough and I was told that the Dana 60 was the best solution for a front axle. I'm pretty set on having 1 ton running gear...
But now I've been searching and see 12 bolt and 14 bolt rear axles for cheaper. What's the difference between Dana 44/60/70 and GM 10/12/14 bolt? I've searched but can't find much. On 4x4 trucks that had the 12 bolt and 14 bolt rear end, what was the front axle? And finally what gearing would I need for 70% offroad and 30% street?
Please enlighten my ignorance and let me know your suggestions.
Tire size and type of wheeling would be needed to better help with axle choice. Toyota's are lightweight. A cromo d44 is PLENTY unless you are going to go sort of buggy terrain on 44's or 46's. Then a bigger axle would be better.
#5
my $0.02:
D44's are about equivalent to a Toy 8" axle (give or take), so that wouldnt net you any improvement.
a 12 bolt is similar to a D44 in strength and features, so again, not much net.
a 14B is somewhere around a D60 or a D70 in terms of strength.
D60 front / D60 rear is a good combo
D60 front / 14B rear is a better combo, however you loose ground clearance unless you shave the axle and ring gear.
D60 front / D70 rear would probably be overkill and a little more $$$, but if you come across a deal, not a bad choice. (dont know about ground clearance differences).
Concerning what came on what: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/bible/index.html
Some more info: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f147...qs-info-96893/
Things to look at for strength:
1) Shaft diameter
2) Shaft spline count
3) Ring gear size
On all 3 more is better. Another thing to consider, most 3/4 ton+ axles were full float (although not all). An advantage of full float is the axle shaft doesnt carry the weight of the vehicle thus isnt as stressed and if you bust one, your wheel doesnt come flying off like a semi float.
For my truck, I will probably go D60 front and either a D60 or 14B rear, whichever is cheaper and easier to find at the time, preferrably the D60 for clearance.
D44's are about equivalent to a Toy 8" axle (give or take), so that wouldnt net you any improvement.
a 12 bolt is similar to a D44 in strength and features, so again, not much net.
a 14B is somewhere around a D60 or a D70 in terms of strength.
D60 front / D60 rear is a good combo
D60 front / 14B rear is a better combo, however you loose ground clearance unless you shave the axle and ring gear.
D60 front / D70 rear would probably be overkill and a little more $$$, but if you come across a deal, not a bad choice. (dont know about ground clearance differences).
Concerning what came on what: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/bible/index.html
Some more info: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f147...qs-info-96893/
Things to look at for strength:
1) Shaft diameter
2) Shaft spline count
3) Ring gear size
On all 3 more is better. Another thing to consider, most 3/4 ton+ axles were full float (although not all). An advantage of full float is the axle shaft doesnt carry the weight of the vehicle thus isnt as stressed and if you bust one, your wheel doesnt come flying off like a semi float.
For my truck, I will probably go D60 front and either a D60 or 14B rear, whichever is cheaper and easier to find at the time, preferrably the D60 for clearance.
#7
good axles, but you require a fair amount of lift or other creative measures to get the clearance needed to run a top loaded pinion like that.
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#13
F350's maybe - but by the time the mfgs put a 60 in the front, they have either a 14B or 70 in the rear ...
You need to browse on Pirate or www.co4x4.com - there are several "kinds" of front 60's and some are much more desirable than others.
I still come back to AxleIke's question:
You need to browse on Pirate or www.co4x4.com - there are several "kinds" of front 60's and some are much more desirable than others.
I still come back to AxleIke's question:
Originally Posted by AxleIke
Tire size and type of wheeling would be needed to better help with axle choice. Toyota's are lightweight. A cromo d44 is PLENTY unless you are going to go sort of buggy terrain on 44's or 46's. Then a bigger axle would be better.
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