Recovery at large distances
#1
Recovery at large distances
I've been looking around for as much info as I possibly can on recovery and I've found lots of good information from both this forum and one of my buddies. The recovery straps I've seen have all been about 20-30 feet, and I think the longest I saw was 35 feet long. Anyway, there's this massive mud pit just outside of town that I'm itching to go into. (It's pretty deep but not impossible to get through) The problem is that a 30 foot long recovery strap will not cut it for this if I get stuck and my buddy needs to help me out. Is there such thing as say a 100 foot long strap that'll work for recoveries such as this?
#2
I don't know about a 100' recovery strap, but a 90' I can help you with. OK, now follow along closely as this is an official example of what I like to refer to as "Hicknology" (Hicknology, it just like technology.....with the increased risk of tetnus!) 90' recovey strap. Take three (3) 30' recovery straps, the yellow dudes with the hooks on each end, connect the hooks.....wrap each connection with EXACTLY 5 complete wraps of duct-tape so the hooks won't disconnect, and Bingo! One 90' recovery strap. Thanks for listening through the run-on sentence, and E-mail me for directions to my super-secret 120' recovery strap!
#4
Ontos, I don't know you so it's hard to tell if you are messing around or not. So I just have to say for the sake of safety...PLEASE DO NOT EVER USE METAL HOOKED TOW STRAPS FOR RECOVERY.
ncoffey, Please only use rated recovery straps and then please be careful and don't ever connect any strap with anything metal. Even recovery straps break, and when they do people get killed.
I hope I am just over reacting and you are just messing around, if so oh well. :pat:
ncoffey, Please only use rated recovery straps and then please be careful and don't ever connect any strap with anything metal. Even recovery straps break, and when they do people get killed.
I hope I am just over reacting and you are just messing around, if so oh well. :pat:
#5
#6
1 - The correct way to join two straps is to feed one end loop from strap A through strap B's loop and then send the other end of strap A through the loop that was passed through strap B's loop. Then put a rag or T shirt into the area that's going to tighten up so you can get then apart afterwards. Some use a stick or other through the area that will tighten for the same reason.
2 - It's a sad statistic that it's usually the helper that gets hurt. In the case of the folks on the list, that means YOU, so understand why. Generally, when stopping to help pull a minivan out of a snowbank, the helper's vehicle has some solid attachments and the helper has some knowledge. But, the stuck vehicle attachments may be suspect, difficult to access, or weather or unwillingness to lay on the ground in street clothes may cause substandard attachment to the stuck vehicle. When the attachment goes, guess who's vehicle the projectile hits? You. So take something from this tragedy that's very important: The person you're most likely to hurt when helping a random stuck on the road is you and/or your family. Recovery of another vehicle may well be the most dangerous thing you've ever done and you may not realize that until the rear hatch glass blows and you wake up in the emergency room.
2 - It's a sad statistic that it's usually the helper that gets hurt. In the case of the folks on the list, that means YOU, so understand why. Generally, when stopping to help pull a minivan out of a snowbank, the helper's vehicle has some solid attachments and the helper has some knowledge. But, the stuck vehicle attachments may be suspect, difficult to access, or weather or unwillingness to lay on the ground in street clothes may cause substandard attachment to the stuck vehicle. When the attachment goes, guess who's vehicle the projectile hits? You. So take something from this tragedy that's very important: The person you're most likely to hurt when helping a random stuck on the road is you and/or your family. Recovery of another vehicle may well be the most dangerous thing you've ever done and you may not realize that until the rear hatch glass blows and you wake up in the emergency room.
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Do not EVER combine straps together, and never use a strap with hooks.
More reading below, and with more good links inside.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f5/recovery-related-death-42711/
More reading below, and with more good links inside.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f5/recovery-related-death-42711/
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#8
Long range recovery is best accomplished with a properly rated winch. For most Toyota applications an 8000 Lb rated winch is sufficient.
If your 100' or 125' of cable isn't enough, an extension of synthetic winch line works well for long distance self recovery.
If your 100' or 125' of cable isn't enough, an extension of synthetic winch line works well for long distance self recovery.
#9
I know from both yotatech and my friends around here not to use shackles to connect straps. A guy in town here actually did that and the shackle went thru the back of his cherokee. This is why I'm asking. I'm wondering why there aren't longer straps around.
#10
[QUOTE=ncoffey]I know from both yotatech and my friends around here not to use shackles to connect straps. ..................
These guys are right right coffey. Having a chunk of steel between 2 or more straps is inherently dangerous. Could give a splitting headache. Now if you have enough steel cab between you and the projectiles...and keep the head low well then it could be 'less dangerous'. Just have to eat the bodywork/glass breakage. That's what happened to me...or should I say my corner panel a long time ago.....my guardian angel was pissed at me that cold winter day!
Actually, I'd be as equally concerned about the actual attachment points to each bumper.
Straps accumulate potential energy(PE). An exchange can occur to Kinetic energy(KE).....when PE changes to KE stuff can happen. hehe
These guys are right right coffey. Having a chunk of steel between 2 or more straps is inherently dangerous. Could give a splitting headache. Now if you have enough steel cab between you and the projectiles...and keep the head low well then it could be 'less dangerous'. Just have to eat the bodywork/glass breakage. That's what happened to me...or should I say my corner panel a long time ago.....my guardian angel was pissed at me that cold winter day!

Actually, I'd be as equally concerned about the actual attachment points to each bumper.
Straps accumulate potential energy(PE). An exchange can occur to Kinetic energy(KE).....when PE changes to KE stuff can happen. hehe
Last edited by ZUK; Oct 22, 2004 at 05:48 AM.
#11
Just have one of these made up from synthetic winch rope:

If it does happen to break, they don't snap back like the recovery straps...
http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/recovery/ropes.htm

If it does happen to break, they don't snap back like the recovery straps...
http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/recovery/ropes.htm
Last edited by BruceTS; Oct 22, 2004 at 07:29 AM.
#12
Originally Posted by BruceTS
Just have one of these made up from synthetic winch rope:
If it does happen to break, they don't snap back like the recovery straps...
If it does happen to break, they don't snap back like the recovery straps...
but they are not rated for a shock load like a strap.........
#13
Yeah, basically I figure I'll have to get a company out in the industrial park just outside of town here to custom make me a strap. Only problem is I'm not sure they have the kind of materials I'm looking for.
#14
Well, I was hoping that would be self-evident as a joke......Therefore, I should go on record as saying most examples of "hicknology" MIGHT work......once, with risk of injury of course, and should probably not be used by sober humans........
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