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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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More lift question ???

I want to lift my rig some more, I don't go off-road; it would only be for looks...
I'm not sure which way to go; now I have:

1” Body lift and
OME N91S Front Shocks
OME 881 Front Coils
OME N86 Rear Shocks
OME 891 Rear Coils

Check this thread for pics and details when I lifted about a year ago:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f31/body-suspension-lift-done-57699/

After researching for a while, what I found was:

I can get a 3" Body lift = + 2", the bad thing about it, is that I would have to extend all type of hoses, wires...

I can get 2.5" Spacers all around = + 2.5", the bad thing about it, is that the ride quality would suck...

Is there other options? What do you recommend?
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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IMO you go any higher and you are going to have major issues with driveability and mechanical failures...especially if you are just going for looks.

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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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if you are going for looks, I would reccomend 2.5" spacers all around, and a 1 or 2" body lift. What size tires do you want to run though, and that would probably give a better idea as to how much lift you need. I ran spacers and KYB shocks all around, and it really wasn't a terrible setup. It faired decent for off road, but I eventually switched out to all coils, much better.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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You need a bracket lift to reasonably go higher. This will locate your front diff lower to reduce the stress on your cv joints. TrailMaster, ProComp, Fabtech, etc. make them.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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If you just want looks, do the trailmaster... I've seen used ones for super cheap on TTORA board...

I have it, and Im super stoked with it.... I;ve offroaded with it several times, but, nothing too intense.. mostly just desert roads in Baja.

I just did take it to Hollister on Sunday and finally did some real "wheeling" as I felt my entire setup was ready for real action. (had problems, but not with the TM lift).

It did real well offroad but, I can see that the upper strut mount might be a problem down the line....
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
IMO you go any higher and you are going to have major issues with driveability and mechanical failures...especially if you are just going for looks.

Thank you, that's what I'm looking for, advice. I'm a newby on the lifting thing... Do you recommend "bracket lifts"?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by JHupp
if you are going for looks, I would reccomend 2.5" spacers all around, and a 1 or 2" body lift. What size tires do you want to run though, and that would probably give a better idea as to how much lift you need. I ran spacers and KYB shocks all around, and it really wasn't a terrible setup. It faired decent for off road, but I eventually switched out to all coils, much better.
I don't want to run bigger tires, I'm happy with my 285/75/R16
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 00Runner
You need a bracket lift to reasonably go higher. This will locate your front diff lower to reduce the stress on your cv joints. TrailMaster, ProComp, Fabtech, etc. make them.
I didn't know that they made bracket lift for our rigs, that's cool... but way too expensive for me . I have a 2WD, are you talking about the rear cv joints? Thanks
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SC4Runner
If you just want looks, do the trailmaster... I've seen used ones for super cheap on TTORA board...

I have it, and Im super stoked with it.... I;ve offroaded with it several times, but, nothing too intense.. mostly just desert roads in Baja.

I just did take it to Hollister on Sunday and finally did some real "wheeling" as I felt my entire setup was ready for real action. (had problems, but not with the TM lift).

It did real well offroad but, I can see that the upper strut mount might be a problem down the line....
Real nice lift!!! SC4Runner that's what I would like to do, I didn't know that we have kits like that, but I was looking for the Trailmaster kits and they are over $1000, that's way too much for me How much have you seen them used?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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cv joints will only be on the front drives... ok there....
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Yeah they are made for Tacomas, but you can make them work on the 4runner.

It does take quite a bit of cutting and a little welding. Took me about 4 days or so to get it driving again too!

Well, I got mine for $300 and it came with a front diff, a-arms and other things!

I ended up making money from selling the stuff and selling my old front end stuff.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Oh, ÅÅÅÅ, you have a 2wd!?!?

You can just jack the hell out of some coil-overs!!
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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<hijack on, srry>

SC4Runner, is there any issue with the tie rod ends? anyone ever relocate this to be mounted on top of tab instead of beneath, could apply here, but was wondering for myself....

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SC4Runner
Oh, ÅÅÅÅ, you have a 2wd!?!?

You can just jack the hell out of some coil-overs!!
I'm sorry, I'm just learning about this...
Coil overs are for front and rear, or just for the front?
If it's only for the front, how do I raise the back?
I want my rig to be level all around, I don't like the look of higher in the front and lower in the rear.

Your rig is sick!!!
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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Sorry, didn't realize you were 2WD. When it comes down to it there's no real cheap way to go taller. A 2" bodylift is the most you can go without having to redo hoses, electrical connections, gas tank filler tube, etc. You don't have cv joints at all, but I'm not sure what the front suspension geometry is like on a 2WD. You can probably go with a larger spacer lift, but you might need longer shocks and to redo your bumpstops.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Guererro,

You can buy my 2.5" rear spacers and put them on your rear OME coils and get 3-4" of rear lift.

for the front you need to get some front spacers to go on your OME coils once again to level it out.

Then you can stick a 2" body lift on too, and not need to screw with any hoses. You could technically get 6" just from that.

Coilovers is a term for the coil over the shock setup. Our front shock/spring assembly is considered a strut, but, is also called a coil-over.

As far as the tie-rod ends, I know what you mean. When you add the lift, they really look stressed from the increased angle. The drop bracket lifts lower the entire steering assembly so its at a stock angle again which is nice...however you loose 3" of ground clearance... :/
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Guerrero
I don't want to run bigger tires, I'm happy with my 285/75/R16
wow, nice, I'm guessing your having a bit of rubbing wiht those. I would porbably do an 881 coil with 2" or so worth of spacers aboce, and 891s in the rear with a 1" spacer that would be about the minimal lift, you would need, you could go higher, and seeing how as it is 2wd, it's not half as hard as a 4x4. Of course, you would need shocks too in the rear mostly, but just a start there, you could porbably keep the cost down by just using spacers in the rear, but the 891s arent much more $$$, and worth it, even if you don't see ofroad IMO
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SC4Runner
If you just want looks, do the trailmaster... I've seen used ones for super cheap on TTORA board...

I have it, and Im super stoked with it.... I;ve offroaded with it several times, but, nothing too intense.. mostly just desert roads in Baja.

I just did take it to Hollister on Sunday and finally did some real "wheeling" as I felt my entire setup was ready for real action. (had problems, but not with the TM lift).

It did real well offroad but, I can see that the upper strut mount might be a problem down the line....
If I understand correct, what I would have to do is 2" body lift and 2.5 spacers all around, right?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JHupp
wow, nice, I'm guessing your having a bit of rubbing wiht those. I would porbably do an 881 coil with 2" or so worth of spacers aboce, and 891s in the rear with a 1" spacer that would be about the minimal lift, you would need, you could go higher, and seeing how as it is 2wd, it's not half as hard as a 4x4. Of course, you would need shocks too in the rear mostly, but just a start there, you could porbably keep the cost down by just using spacers in the rear, but the 891s arent much more $$$, and worth it, even if you don't see ofroad IMO
Yes, I had some rubbing issues because of my wheels no the lift.


I bought 4 wheel spacers to fix that, no more rubbing


I like the OME set up I have:
OME N91S Front Shocks
OME 881 Front Coils
OME N86 Rear Shocks
OME 891 Rear Coils

If I understand right, you are recommending spacers, but why higher in the front? 2" front 1" rear?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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This is just my prefernce. I like the truck to be level. The 881s are 1.5" of lift while the 891 are 2.5" I like a level look, but many people like the back to sit higher, for gear, subs, roll bars and such. You could go 2" up front, if you want the back to be 1" higher, then use 2" spacers up front. There are sooooo many spacer sizes and combinations out there. It would be much easier just to add a top out spacer. I have a 1" day start top out, just make sure you have the extended studs. Any questions, just let me know, I have run a few different setups up front know, and I am still playing around with it.
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