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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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Greaseable or non greaseable U-joints??

I need to replade my U-joints on my 87 runner. they have started cluking. My question is, should I get greaseables or non-greaseables? And what are the pros & cons of each? Yes I did search first. Thanks.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by treknwil
I need to replade my U-joints on my 87 runner. they have started cluking. My question is, should I get greaseables or non-greaseables? And what are the pros & cons of each? Yes I did search first. Thanks.

Buy OEM toyota joints and grease them EVERY oil change or more (depending on conditions)

where did you find NON greaseable joints?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:21 AM
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i use the greaseable ones (i grease it every greenhorn trip)
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtoyboy
Buy OEM toyota joints and grease them EVERY oil change or more (depending on conditions)

where did you find NON greaseable joints?
Found them on rockauto .com.

Originally Posted by norcalsvx
i use the greaseable ones (i grease it every greenhorn trip)
I know water is bad lol! I was wondering if non-greaseables are sealed or not and would handle being in water?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by treknwil
Found them on rockauto .com.



I know water is bad lol! I was wondering if non-greaseables are sealed or not and would handle being in water?

The most common reason for u-joint failure is lack of maintenance (greasing regularly) The toyota joints are a lot tougher than people think. They may cost a little more but they are worth it. I can guarantee if you use anything else you will be replacing them sooner which is not technically difficult but still a PITA. I have never seen a non greasable joint on a toyota
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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im using a couple non-greasables on my yoter. I got mine at Autozone. so far no problems and theyve been on there a few years through water n mud. still smooth and solid.

i dont see an issue with it but whenever these start to fail or do fail ill swap to greasables (OEM)
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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Sort of a trade off between greaseable and non-greaseable from my experience. Greaseable is nice in that you can periodically grease them. I've had one or two of those fail when one of the internal grease passages get clogged and that prevented grease from getting to one of the u-joint bearings and that one failed. Also, the drilling for the grease fitting and passages can cause a weak point when the u-joint cross can break, although I have not seen that on a Toyota u-joint.

The non-greaseable joints are often sealed better and since you can't overfill them with grease and damage the seals they can hold up to adverse conditions better. That said, when they do start to run dry, that is it, they need to be replaced.

I have both types on my '85 and they are all working well for me.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 10:44 AM
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If you're not willing to squirt some grease in 'em from time-to-time, get the one's WITHOUT zerks.

If you don't mind crawling under your truck with a greasegun, get the ones WITH the zerks.

2WD Toyotas have NO zerks.

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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dirtoyboy
Buy OEM toyota joints and grease them EVERY oil change or more (depending on conditions)

where did you find NON greaseable joints?
I believe my mom's stock 99 limited 2wd 4runner has non-greaseable u-joints, i tried to grease the u-joints but there was no nipple for the grease gun.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Greaseable. I use the NAPA Super Strength ones

The "non greaseable" ones aren't sealed THAT well, and shooting grease in there periodically ensures the water and gunk are flushed out.
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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Greaseable. I use the NAPA Super Strength ones

The "non greaseable" ones aren't sealed THAT well, and shooting grease in there periodically ensures the water and gunk are flushed out.
How do you like the Napa ones? They are made by Precision right? The reasons I ask is, I called Napa and got a price of $18 & $25. and at Toyota the prices range from $65 to $89. are toyota parts that much better?
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Old Apr 15, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Get greaseable ones... cheap insurance... I've never had a greaeable u-joint fail... vehicles I driven with the non-greaseable types have failed me repeatedly.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 05:20 AM
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I have only heard bad things about Precision joints FWIW
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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do you want something like this?
http://www.ok4wd.com/index.php/catal...proof_u_joint/
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