Developing new compressor
#1
Developing new compressor
We at Sun Performance are trying to develop a new line of compressors. We are currently focusing on the the design and performance specs. Let us know what you would like to see.
I don't have the current performance specs. I'm waiting for a prototype to come in for testing
This is what we have so far:

We would like to give the people what they want. Your comments will be taken into consideration of the compressor. Your help is greatly appreciated.
I don't have the current performance specs. I'm waiting for a prototype to come in for testing
This is what we have so far:

We would like to give the people what they want. Your comments will be taken into consideration of the compressor. Your help is greatly appreciated.
#2
High CFM, 100% duty cycle, ability to operate in dusty/wet conditions, water proof, serviceable/rebuildable. Price needs to come in comparable to Viair to be competitive, even with better features.
Real life testing.
Real life testing.
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From what I have read over the years here, most members want a compressor that can fill up tires fast and also output at least 100 or more PSI.
That latter mainly to be able to run a few air tools, and all this without having to add an external tank somewhere on the rig.
Do you know what the air output rating is, and would it be a compressor that can run a long time without shutting down as in a "continuous duty cycle" compressor?
That latter mainly to be able to run a few air tools, and all this without having to add an external tank somewhere on the rig.
Do you know what the air output rating is, and would it be a compressor that can run a long time without shutting down as in a "continuous duty cycle" compressor?
#6
#7
Rebuildable
Rebuildable
Rebuildable
Of course, no one wants to do that, but it sucks if it's not really fixable.
Oh, and it'd be nice if it was rebuildable.
Good luck. You're in a tough spot competing with junkyard York compressors and already installed AC compressors, never mind all the electric stuff. I hope you develop something different than what's already out there.
Personally, I'd be more interested in a belt driven compressor, the real part being all the different brackets to fit all the different engines well.
Rebuildable
Rebuildable
Of course, no one wants to do that, but it sucks if it's not really fixable.
Oh, and it'd be nice if it was rebuildable.
Good luck. You're in a tough spot competing with junkyard York compressors and already installed AC compressors, never mind all the electric stuff. I hope you develop something different than what's already out there.
Personally, I'd be more interested in a belt driven compressor, the real part being all the different brackets to fit all the different engines well.
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#8
Not reciprocating - the market is flooded with high PSI, low CFM compressors and you'll be competing against the bargain-basement crap from China.
We don't need anything more than 100 psi, but we need > 4CFM! (Corey - air tools shouldn't be run much higher than 90 psi). The more CFM you give me, the more we can discuss duty cycles. At 4CFM, I need 100% duty cycle for 30 mins. Go to 8 CFM and I only need 50% duty cycle for 30 mins.
Step out of the box and build a rotary screw or rotary lobe style like everyone uses in manufacturing plants ... almost like a Roots blower.
You want a winner? Take the Oasis specs and make it for half the price. You won't be able to keep them on the shelves.
One last thing - a small tank is not too bad, but if we have to use a large tank to get the CFM, I don't have much room to spare ...
We don't need anything more than 100 psi, but we need > 4CFM! (Corey - air tools shouldn't be run much higher than 90 psi). The more CFM you give me, the more we can discuss duty cycles. At 4CFM, I need 100% duty cycle for 30 mins. Go to 8 CFM and I only need 50% duty cycle for 30 mins.
Step out of the box and build a rotary screw or rotary lobe style like everyone uses in manufacturing plants ... almost like a Roots blower.
You want a winner? Take the Oasis specs and make it for half the price. You won't be able to keep them on the shelves.
One last thing - a small tank is not too bad, but if we have to use a large tank to get the CFM, I don't have much room to spare ...
Last edited by tc; Jan 16, 2009 at 02:27 PM.
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Yep, when I run my air wrench, I crank the Powertank up to 100 PSI.
When I pull the trigger, the gauge goes down to 90 PSI, just right for airtools.
However I crank the Powertank up to 150 to 200 PSI when airing tires back up.
When I pull the trigger, the gauge goes down to 90 PSI, just right for airtools.
However I crank the Powertank up to 150 to 200 PSI when airing tires back up.
#10
Here is another compressor in the QAX line, which is a smaller version. All of these compressors are capable of running air tools and we are in the process of building parts for it.
#11
I would suggest longer power wires for sure. I can't see how long they are in the first picture, but the ones on the second compressor (smaller one) certainly wouldn't be very useful to me.
From the pictures, it looks to me like the handle is removable... that's a good thing if somebody wants to hardmount it. I would, however suggest some pre-drilled holes in the base plate to make hardmounting easier.
Ensure that a common thread fitting is being used for the air hose outlet on the compressor so that people that might want to can customize their setups for an onboard air system or can easily adapt your compressor to an existing setup.
Is there a filter for the air inlet? If not, consider adding one. A lot of offroaders operate compressors in dusty environments. The air filter should, obviously, be removable to be cleaned or replaced.
From the pictures, it looks to me like the handle is removable... that's a good thing if somebody wants to hardmount it. I would, however suggest some pre-drilled holes in the base plate to make hardmounting easier.
Ensure that a common thread fitting is being used for the air hose outlet on the compressor so that people that might want to can customize their setups for an onboard air system or can easily adapt your compressor to an existing setup.
Is there a filter for the air inlet? If not, consider adding one. A lot of offroaders operate compressors in dusty environments. The air filter should, obviously, be removable to be cleaned or replaced.
Last edited by GSGALLANT; Jan 19, 2009 at 10:56 AM.
#13
No specs yet, still waiting for a prototype, but that is what the engineers are telling us.
Also, the power wires in the picture are short because they were cut to save room on the display, but of course, the wires will be much longer to make it useful.
Also, the power wires in the picture are short because they were cut to save room on the display, but of course, the wires will be much longer to make it useful.
#14
that big ol' handle is totally waste of money, and space. make it wider to cover all the way include the heatsink like in the second picture, at the same time make it shorter, if one can slip couple finger thru is good enough.
don't go cheap on the fittings, plastic gauge is gonna break, crack, people is gonna be pissed off very quickly. use big enough, long enough power cord, cooper wires, you know lots of them out there are using aluminum wires.
straight forward no bull customer service is your best marketing tool.
don't go cheap on the fittings, plastic gauge is gonna break, crack, people is gonna be pissed off very quickly. use big enough, long enough power cord, cooper wires, you know lots of them out there are using aluminum wires.
straight forward no bull customer service is your best marketing tool.
#15
CFM's?, duty?, price? , tank?, rebuildable?, waterproof?
I am considering a 12v OBA system at the moment
Also, I dont need mine to be shiny chrome or pretty billet, I will take the ugly model at the ugly discounted price thank you
I am considering a 12v OBA system at the moment
Also, I dont need mine to be shiny chrome or pretty billet, I will take the ugly model at the ugly discounted price thank you
#16
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#1 has to be 100% dutycycle at 40psi minimum
I see to many of them out that say 100% but @ only 20psi, I dont know many people who drive down the road with only 20psi in there tires. It mite be fine for 31s but they die trying to fill 36"+ tires
I see to many of them out that say 100% but @ only 20psi, I dont know many people who drive down the road with only 20psi in there tires. It mite be fine for 31s but they die trying to fill 36"+ tires
#18
I hear 100% duty cycle but the cooling fins on the compressor are about the same as mine and the handle is limiting air circulation to one side of it. Real world on a hot day, the thermal switch will trip.
Of course if you'd get a prototype to me I'll be happy to reveiw it for you.
Of course if you'd get a prototype to me I'll be happy to reveiw it for you.
#19
specs on paper don't sell to me, all those chinese compressors which flooded the market have a decent spec sheet, matter is will they actually do what they said on paper. make it in plain english, just let me know how long it's gonna take to air up a 265/75R16 BFG A/T KO tire from 15 psi to 35psi, will it stop itself in the middle to cool, can it do 4 of them.
i assume when the design is finalized, the production will be done in China(it'd be great if not), make sure the factory knows how to properly tighten up the screws/nuts/bolts.
i assume when the design is finalized, the production will be done in China(it'd be great if not), make sure the factory knows how to properly tighten up the screws/nuts/bolts.
#20
Compressor completed!
Introducing the QuickAir X 1500 and QuickAir X 2000!
QuickAir X 1500:

Portable Version:

QuickAir X 2000:

Portable Version:

- 12-Volt
- Permanent Magnetic Motor
- Amp Draw: 22 Amps
- Duty Cycle: 100% @ 100 PSI
- Max Working Pressure: 200 PSI
- Min. Ambient Temperature: -40 degrees F
- Max. Ambient Temperature: 142.2 degrees F
- Dimensions: 288.5L x 100W x 163H
- Net Weight: 9.26 lbs.
- Time to fill 5 Gallon Tank: 0-200 psi - 11 min 15 sec.
PM me for more information or contact us at 714-708-7730.
Also please visit www.sunperformance.com for more information.
Introducing the QuickAir X 1500 and QuickAir X 2000!
QuickAir X 1500:

Portable Version:

- 12-Volt
- Permanent Magnetic Motor
- Amp Draw: 20 Amps
- Duty Cycle: 100% @ 100 PSI
- Max Working Pressure: 150 PSI
- Min. Ambient Temperature: -40 degrees F
- Max. Ambient Temperature: 160.6 degrees F
- Dimensions: 257L x 100W x 163H
- Net Weight: 7.72 lbs.
- Time to fill 2.5 Gallon Tank: 0-100 psi - 2 min 30 sec.
QuickAir X 2000:

Portable Version:

- 12-Volt
- Permanent Magnetic Motor
- Amp Draw: 22 Amps
- Duty Cycle: 100% @ 100 PSI
- Max Working Pressure: 200 PSI
- Min. Ambient Temperature: -40 degrees F
- Max. Ambient Temperature: 142.2 degrees F
- Dimensions: 288.5L x 100W x 163H
- Net Weight: 9.26 lbs.
- Time to fill 5 Gallon Tank: 0-200 psi - 11 min 15 sec.
PM me for more information or contact us at 714-708-7730.
Also please visit www.sunperformance.com for more information.



