Dirtco's 1999 4Runner Build-Up Thread
#561
thanks for the inspiration! I copied your build a little, made a few mods to make it work for me. i caged in one side so i was more like a basket. i tend to haul alot of stuff as well, so i added tie downs to the front of it where your hi-lift is, also, mine is removeable, its bolted in. heres a pic, hope its worthy! 

#562
I really have no idea, but it didn't add much weight.
Thanks, I noticed the same thing as you when I was replacing my rear shoes. I hardly ever use my parking brake, especially in the winter time. The last thing I want is for the shoes to freeze overnight. Like you said, I try to pull the handle a few times every now and then, to let the adjusters work up. It does seem to help, but I will be adjusting the rear shoes at every oil change from now on and if the truck is up in the air for anything else i might do a quick adjustment. It only takes a minute or two and the increased braking power/pedal feel is well worth it.
Thanks man! I'm a huge fan of the older trucks too, but for daily driver duty the 3rd Gen. is SO nice! This rig is by far the best comprise of daily driver / weekend wheeler that i have ever owned. It's comfortable, fast, and quite capable on the trail.
Dirtco I went through a similar thing with my brakes, if I looked at it correctly the e/parking brake adjusts the brakes up, I don't use my parking brake much but I do just pull the handle up a few times every so often it seems to have helped on mine just a suggestion.
The plates on your bumper look good I'm happy with how mine turned out as well but man trying to bend that 1/8th inch plate was a pain. Rig is looking great.
The plates on your bumper look good I'm happy with how mine turned out as well but man trying to bend that 1/8th inch plate was a pain. Rig is looking great.
Awesome rig man...I'm partial to the older trucks and enjoyed seeing your progress on the '86 turbo runner. But this one is turning out to be just as cool, if not more so. Seems very functional but still has great aesthetic appeal. I'll have to point my 3rd-gen buddy towards this thread for ideas!
#563
thanks for the inspiration! I copied your build a little, made a few mods to make it work for me. i caged in one side so i was more like a basket. i tend to haul alot of stuff as well, so i added tie downs to the front of it where your hi-lift is, also, mine is removeable, its bolted in. heres a pic, hope its worthy! 


That's FalconFixers version that he made up after seeing mine, it turned out really nice. Here is a picture of mine, there's more pictures a few pages back.


#565
#566
That is one SICK Cargo Area! lol. I can see why you grabbed that idea, FalconFixer!
How'd you run your RCA's? Where's the Amp/s? I'm sure it's back there at some point in this SICK thread! lol.... If so, just tell me and I'll hunt for it.
How'd you run your RCA's? Where's the Amp/s? I'm sure it's back there at some point in this SICK thread! lol.... If so, just tell me and I'll hunt for it.
#568
the RCA's are ran down the drivers side of the truck, under the carpet. my amp is mounted to the back of the box. i know its not a good idea, but its an old amp, and i dont run a ton of bass, its also built to be removed when the rack is out. it you want to use my ideas, go for it, like Dirtco says, thats why theyre here!
#569
the RCA's are ran down the drivers side of the truck, under the carpet. my amp is mounted to the back of the box. i know its not a good idea, but its an old amp, and i dont run a ton of bass, its also built to be removed when the rack is out. it you want to use my ideas, go for it, like Dirtco says, thats why theyre here!
I'm probably going to mount them under the passenger seat... Maybe both seats, depending on 'space allowed', ya know? Here's my add on's......
I should be able to fit them under the passenger... But Just haven't test fitted yet. The speaker wiring/bridging it the part I don't look forward to, lol... But whatever, it'll be fun in the end, lol.
PS> A good buddy who does special ops stuff is leaving for several months/moving simultaneously before leaving... so he parted out his rig and called me and said, "Hey, want this stuff?"... Tried to GIVE it to me, out of thanks, ...but I ended up talking him into taking 50$ for Airport Drinks! lol.
#571
btw. you'll go out of your mind finding the right threaded bolts. i used VW rabbit seat belt hardware for the basket, and 4 half inch spacers from lowes to make it removable. im pretty sure toyota seat belt bolts will work, the vw stuff i had laying around from my truck build.
#574
Last edited by DIRTCO; May 2, 2012 at 04:04 PM.
#575
Building an all around comfortable daily driver / weekend wheeling rig is a challenge, but throwing a trailer in the mix complicates things even more. I have the SS1.2 suspension kit, which uses stock front LC coils for the rear springs. These springs have a very soft spring rate (around 160) and normally give around 4” of lift. I love these springs for low speed crawling and slow trail exploring; they ride/flex great and you hardly feel any of the small bumps that like to transmit through the suspension.
The problem is I carry a lot of gear with me, and it adds a decent amount of weight to the back of the 4Runner. The gear is always in the back of the 4Runner, and the rear suspension is noticeably softer than the front; while that’s great on the slower trails, it’s really too soft for faster trails and everyday driving, and it’s way too soft for highway driving. Adding a trailer only makes things worse. As you can see, the Sonoran Steel rear LC springs should give you about 4” of lift; I’m at about 2.5” and I have no rake at all.


Once I hooked up the empty trailer the 4Runner squatted down another good ˝” at the rear wheel well (over an inch at the bumper), I’m sure it will drop even more once the trailer is loaded, and the 4Runner has some extra camping gear.
The problem is I carry a lot of gear with me, and it adds a decent amount of weight to the back of the 4Runner. The gear is always in the back of the 4Runner, and the rear suspension is noticeably softer than the front; while that’s great on the slower trails, it’s really too soft for faster trails and everyday driving, and it’s way too soft for highway driving. Adding a trailer only makes things worse. As you can see, the Sonoran Steel rear LC springs should give you about 4” of lift; I’m at about 2.5” and I have no rake at all.


Once I hooked up the empty trailer the 4Runner squatted down another good ˝” at the rear wheel well (over an inch at the bumper), I’m sure it will drop even more once the trailer is loaded, and the 4Runner has some extra camping gear.
#576
While I have not towed the trailer on the highway yet, on the back streets around the shop the spring rate is noticeably way too soft and the rear suspension bottoms out on even a small dip or bump. The trailer is going to see plenty of easy and moderate trails (maybe even a couple hard ones), so something needed to be done about the rear coils.
My first thought was to re-install the stock cone bump stops that are removed with the SS kit, then add one or two 10mm OME spacers; but that wouldn’t do anything about the super soft spring rate. I also thought about air bags, but I didn’t like the idea of the bags inside the coils chaffing and rubbing all the time.
My next thought was to use the OME 891’s, which have a spring rate of 210 and give about 3” of lift; this would have been my number one choice if I did not have the trailer. But, I was concerned that the weight of all my gear, plus the weight of the trailer would sag down the rear suspension to about the same level as the springs I have.
After a lot of thought, and research, I decided to use the OME 861 springs. These are a replacement for the front LC springs I have, but with a low lift (.25) and a heavy spring rate (220) that is designed for an additional 110-250 pounds of weight (on the front of a FJ80). I also believe these are a progressive rate coil spring. My main concern was getting too much lift out of them; it seems that most people get 4.5”-5.5” of lift, and that was just too much for me considering my front suspension is less than 2.5”. I crossed my fingers and got to work…
Stock LC spring on the left, OME 861 on the right
My first thought was to re-install the stock cone bump stops that are removed with the SS kit, then add one or two 10mm OME spacers; but that wouldn’t do anything about the super soft spring rate. I also thought about air bags, but I didn’t like the idea of the bags inside the coils chaffing and rubbing all the time.
My next thought was to use the OME 891’s, which have a spring rate of 210 and give about 3” of lift; this would have been my number one choice if I did not have the trailer. But, I was concerned that the weight of all my gear, plus the weight of the trailer would sag down the rear suspension to about the same level as the springs I have.
After a lot of thought, and research, I decided to use the OME 861 springs. These are a replacement for the front LC springs I have, but with a low lift (.25) and a heavy spring rate (220) that is designed for an additional 110-250 pounds of weight (on the front of a FJ80). I also believe these are a progressive rate coil spring. My main concern was getting too much lift out of them; it seems that most people get 4.5”-5.5” of lift, and that was just too much for me considering my front suspension is less than 2.5”. I crossed my fingers and got to work…
Stock LC spring on the left, OME 861 on the right
#577
I installed the springs, lowered the truck, and found that it only lifted the back of the 4Runner about 1”. What a relief, I was really concerned it was going to be more! 
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Outside, in better light

Before

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Outside, in better light
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