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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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Didn't someone get flamed to hell last year because they wanted to do this?
Call me whatever you want but to take it in and get it fixed under warranty is dishonest. But hey, if their service tech told you to do it that way...
That was a Subaru forum...the guy said he was going to do that and someone called the dealers in his area and told them what he did. He didnt get his WRX fixed as a result. If they want to fix it though and they know what happened...then A-OK.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NX Tacoma
I was runnig 93 octane, no boosters!

I assume this was your first experience with N20.. right? I think you did what a lot of people do... just hook it up and go.

If you would have used unleaded race fuel or a good booster then you would still be running. N0S makes a decent booster as well and you can find it in the part stores. NX is still the best IMO though.. smells just like pure alcohol. You have or order it though online.

As for the Digital 4.. I've never heard of it. I am only aware of the Digital 6 and 7 series. I assume if the Digital 4 will work with your motor then the 6 should as well.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PoBoy
That was a Subaru forum...the guy said he was going to do that and someone called the dealers in his area and told them what he did. He didnt get his WRX fixed as a result. If they want to fix it though and they know what happened...then A-OK.
Okay, yeah - now I remember that.
Well, if a service tech said to go that way and he's willing to do the work...
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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I think the service tech told him to take everything off and bring it in - which I find to be very risky in itself. That guy could lose his job if word got out.
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by <96 Runner>
IThat guy could lose his job if word got out.
Uh...do you folks really think that Toyota does NOT monitor this board, and others like it??
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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What the , the truck started! It's a little rough but their is no more noise from the engine and it idels at high RPM's. What happened???

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by kenandjenn
As for the Digital 4.. I've never heard of it. I am only aware of the Digital 6 and 7 series. I assume if the Digital 4 will work with your motor then the 6 should as well.
There is no sch thing as the Digital 4. It is actually called the DIS-4. Here's a thread about it.

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:14 AM
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Sorry, DIS-4. Dr. Z do you have any idea what happened to my truck??
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NX Tacoma
it idels at high RPM's. What happened???

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What do you mean it idles at high RPM's? Does it not idle with your foot off the gas?
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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Yes, it stay's around 1000 RPM's.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:49 AM
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What exactly did it do in the first place to make you think it was dead?

If it's running ok now, pull your spark plugs and take a look at them. That might have had something to do with it.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Blair
Uh...do you folks really think that Toyota does NOT monitor this board, and others like it??

Even if they did (which I'm sure they don't) I don't think these message forums can be used as evidence in a warranty case unless it was a more serious situation. That could all change once a case comes up in court and a ruling is actually challenged involving a BB.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 07:02 AM
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A kid who owned one of those WRX Subaru's did something like this, and tried to scam a few dealers into fixing his car for free under warranty. He posted all of the information pertaining to what he was doing on a Subaru BB, much like this board. Then, several BB members informed the dealers of what he was trying to do. I don't know if it ever went to court. But, the other members didn't want to be associated with someone like that because it gives ALL enthusiasts a bad name...

NX, just take your truck to a dealer, or qualified mechanic, bend over and pay what you owe to fix it. It's entirely your fault what happened and it is no one else's responsibility to fix. You play, you gotta pay.

I'm not trying to be a d*ck, just trying to shed some reality on the situation. Sometimes, reality sucks. If it makes you feel any better, when I was running 18lbs of boost on my old Supra, I once roasted a $200 HKS Steel headgasket due to detonation, which is what I think you experienced. That was about a $4000 rebuild...

Good luck.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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I have no problems paying for it! I just want to know what happened so I don't make the same mistake's. I will lower the nitrous to a 75 shot. Jason at F2Uning said the motor can handle it, if it's done right!

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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Well, there you go! Excellent attitude and sounds like good advice too, from someone who appears to be the master of high boost engines.

Later tater!
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dcampen
And except that nitrous oxide is N2O not NO2. Nitrous oxide is equivalent to 33% oxygen compared to the 20% oxygen in air.

Also, since the nitrous gets into the cylinders as a liquid you can stuff even more in.
This might help:

A Boost for Fast Cars
At room temperature, N2O is quite unreactive with most substances, including alkali metals, halogens, and even ozone. It is therefore widely used as a propellant in aerosol cans in place of the CFCs which can damage the ozone layer. When heated sufficiently, however, N2O decomposes exothermically to N2 and O2.

If this reaction occurs in the combustion chamber of an automobile, 3 moles of gas would be produced from 2 moles, providing an extra boost to the piston, as well as liberating more heat. It also has a number of other benefits. The increased oxygen provides more efficient combustion of fuel, the nitrogen buffers the increased cylinder pressure controlling the combustion, and the latent heat of vaporisation of the N2O reduces the intake temperature. Therefore N2O is occasionally injected into the fuel lines of racing cars to give more power to the engine and to give the car exceptional acceleration.

You still might want to pull the heads to check for damage.
Take some pics if you get a chance.

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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someone wrote on here that dealers like doing warranty work. Thats not quite true. Yes they get to bill toyota for it. But toyota does not pay them $60+/hr to do it. They get paid a lot less, not sure what the exact number is. So the dealer would rather have the mechanic working on a car that the customer is paying for.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sdastg1
But toyota does not pay them $60+/hr to do it. They get paid a lot less, not sure what the exact number is. So the dealer would rather have the mechanic working on a car that the customer is paying for.
I was told by a service advisor (that I actually trust) that recall campaigns and the like were 80% of normal labor charges. I would imagine that warranty work would be similar...not sure though.
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