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Old May 11, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Calrockx,
That was the initial intent, and we spent months theorizing how to integrate the factory TRAC OFF switch into the wiring. I even purchased one of the switches. In the end, no one really figured the wiring out, so I went with plan 'B'.
Since there really is no reason to shut the systems off while in traffic, the inconvenience of shutting the truck off and on, is a minor one. In all likelihood, you'll be offroad and will have the time to go through these steps.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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calrockx,
I think you may just have to run that center connector to a good ground under the dash. I think that's what I did for the illuminated switch I used for my Hella 4000s.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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btw andreas, i didn't mean to disparage all the effort put into this mod by my post on how it doesn't turn on/off on the fly, i was just surprised. but you're right, i will be offroad whenever i use this mod, and having to restart is a minor issue. it's gonna be fun wheelin without the computers.

anyway, here's my version of the install:





and behind the dash:


it's a tight fit, i had to trim a bit (just a little of that plastic) back there, but it fits.
for the "trac off" text i just printed on a mailing label and cut to size. it's not the prettiest, but i think it looks fine.
i tried to get the led light to work too with the switch, but gave up after a while. i tried a ground behind the dash, but it didn't work. i've got a wire attached for the light to the third prong and just taped it up back there, i'll figure out how to make that work later.

i tested it on-road, and it works just fine. thanks to everyone who helped develop this mod.


EDIT: okay, well the switch worked normally as far as making the dash light up with VSC/TRAC/ABS lights, indicating on or off. but when the switch was off, the vsc and trac weren't active, as they should be. i determined it's the switch by making a straight connection of the wires on the switch end, and then everything worked normally. so i'm just gonna use a simpler 2-prong toyota fog light switch and that should do the trick.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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calrockx,
Looks great! After I printed the "TRAC OFF" label, I shot the rocker portion of the switch with a few layers of satin polyurethane. The finish matches that of the rest of the switch and prevents the label from smearing or coming off down the road.

I guess that makes you number 3 with the official AndyMod™

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Old May 18, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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just wanted to make an update...

so like i said, this mod doesn't work with the three pronged, led fog light switch. so, i got the two pronged regular fog light switch (part # PT297-89013sw) today, installed it and this mod works just fine.


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Old May 19, 2005 | 04:46 AM
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Glad to hear it - that looks very clean!

One observation though: your mod list includes : "All-weather Floor Mats", but no mention of the "AndyMod™". Hmm. I would argue that the significance of this mod, to the automotive world in general, far eclipses that of a floor mat.



Just pulling your leg!



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Old May 26, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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andreas, or anyone!

can someone post up a pic of the thing to remove in the engine bay to disable vsc & trac?? im going wheeling in NY tomorrow and cant remember for the life of me which one it is, and the pic in this thread is broken!

thanks!!
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Old May 26, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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the pic is referenced here:

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...&postcount=134
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Old May 26, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Old May 26, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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you are the man!

thanks bro.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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aowRS,
Sorry... been away from the forum for awhile. I haven't cut those wires yet! As a matter of fact, I've haven't been back under the hood so I'll check and see what color the wires are. Did you come up with something or...?

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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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Not for the Sequoia - sorry! Someone must have a shop manual here for the Sequioa.

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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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unplugging that thing worked like a charm when i went wheeling yesterday
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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Well I don't know if anyone is still looking at this thread, but I ran into a problem a couple weeks ago pertaining to the traction control. I had added the switch to turn off the traction control and it worked fine for a couple months, but now, the lights stay on no matter what position the switch is in. Just wondering if anyone has ran into this problem. I did a search for this on yotatech and the other people who had this problem mentioned something about a valve that was bad or leaking, but I was wonding if my problem was related to this mod. Thanks.

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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Thanks for that pic. I had to unplug it when I did the dyno runs.

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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 11:55 PM
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Well I don't know if anyone is still looking at this thread ...
I'm still following it and don't have much to offer (yet). Just this evening I was pouring over the diagnostic manual (2003) regarding TRAC and discovered there is a relay in my engine fuse box called TRAC MTR. Perhaps your's is on the fritz. In my rig, the relay is pink.

I tried pulling the relay out around midnight, but couldn't see much and it didn't want to budge. I'll have another look tomorrow. I also keep forgetting to inquire about the TRAC OFF switch that is listed in the manuals ... dang! I have to call in the am!
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 06:00 AM
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Yeah, I think I pulled that pink rely a long time ago and didn't see any noteble changes, i.e. warning lights for check engine lights. Here is the thread is was talking about where they said it might be a stuck valve. TRAC OFF, VSC TRAC, ABS lights on
Im just not sure if I can take it into a dealer to look at since I've been cutting wires and adding switches, they tend to frown on that sort of activity.

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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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I'm sure the dealer will look at it, the question is would it be covered under warranty.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Simon,
Just got back into town. I too had problems after a few months and traced the issue to a broken wire at one of the crimp-on connections I had done. The wire was actually broken from crimping on the connector too firmly. I found better connectors and re-did the connections. No issues since. I think the whole setup is very sensitive to voltage fluctuations, so a bad connection would through the warning lights pretty easily.

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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Hmm, intresting. I did look at the connections, but I didn't take off the crimps ons to see if the wire was broken. I gave the wires a little tug and everything seems connected, but maybe not. I'll take a closer look when I have some time.

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