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Old May 19, 2014 | 04:49 PM
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thorly headers on a 3.4L - heat issue ?

I have some Thorly headers on a 3.4L
I'm having an issue with the starter . intermittently it will act like the contacts are worn . click click ..
I know the is 12V to the starter , and the grounds are sanded to bare metal . also replaced the started with a quality rebuild .
everything seems to "speck" out fine .

but every once in a while , I get a no start click ..

these headers are real close to the starter , and I know in chevs , they have an issue with header heat , and the electronics of the starter . they use a heat shield to correct this ..


anyway .. I guess what I'm asking .. anyone ever had a problem with there starter like this ?


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Old May 20, 2014 | 06:08 AM
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No issue here, sure the battery is at full power? Try checking the voltage while someone tries to start it when this happens. My battery would drain after a few days sometimes and cause this.

Could be that the "quality rebuild" was not that quality as well.
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Old May 21, 2014 | 05:28 PM
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No issue here, sure the battery is at full power? Try checking the voltage while someone tries to start it when this happens. My battery would drain after a few days sometimes and cause this.

Could be that the "quality rebuild" was not that quality as well.
yes , battery is good ..
this problem seem to happen @ random , weather driving for hours or stop and start .
have checked for voltage , and as mentioned , it all specs out great . This is the 3rd starter actually .
I haven't been able to check it when it happens , as it's so random .
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Old May 24, 2014 | 03:51 PM
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no problems with mine.
3.4 swap, OBX headers with custom crossover underneath.

these headers look like thorley clones.
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Old May 24, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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Thanks for starting this thread Corey. Hopefully we can get this one figured out.


Since this thread is concerning my truck, I might as well provide some more input on the problem.


It definitely seems to be heat related but I don't think the headers are the issue. On hot days, the truck has trouble starting whether I have been driving around or not. On cooler days, it fires up every time without issues. The majority of times I can get it going by tapping the starter but occasionally I have to rely on bump starting it to get going. This is a problem when I don't have friends or a hill around...


Since tapping the starter seemed to help, I thought it was worn out contacts. I replaced those in the original starter but the problem persisted. I decided to replace the starter but again had no luck.


After reading into the problem online, I found a few threads where installing a relay between the battery and starter solved the problem. I am thinking about trying this but there is one thing holding me back. In the threads I have read, the starters are not engaging at all. In my case, my starter will still click.


Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I hate having something like this holding me back on the rest of my build!!

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Old May 25, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DossCable
Thanks for starting this thread Corey. Hopefully we can get this one figured out.


Since this thread is concerning my truck, I might as well provide some more input on the problem.


It definitely seems to be heat related but I don't think the headers are the issue. On hot days, the truck has trouble starting whether I have been driving around or not. On cooler days, it fires up every time without issues. The majority of times I can get it going by tapping the starter but occasionally I have to rely on bump starting it to get going. This is a problem when I don't have friends or a hill around...


Since tapping the starter seemed to help, I thought it was worn out contacts. I replaced those in the original starter but the problem persisted. I decided to replace the starter but again had no luck.


After reading into the problem online, I found a few threads where installing a relay between the battery and starter solved the problem. I am thinking about trying this but there is one thing holding me back. In the threads I have read, the starters are not engaging at all. In my case, my starter will still click.


Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I hate having something like this holding me back on the rest of my build!!
The " HOT START RELAY" make it so you have a full 12v to the starter signal wire. I have done a few of these for buddies due to the starter signal wire dropping voltage to 8-9v. It will do the exact same thing as worn contacts.
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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:08 AM
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Thanks for the reply, vital. Was it a 30amp relay you have used?? That's what I have read in a few threads..
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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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Thats what I have used in the past.
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Old May 25, 2014 | 08:12 AM
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Cool. Thanks!
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