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Synthetic Winch Line

Old Oct 11, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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Synthetic Winch Line

Well my synthetic line came in today, let me tell you I have never realized how much of a pain that steel line is! Anyhow, just thought I would share, I think it was an excellent decision to change out the line. Are there several others that run the synthetic line, besides Steve and Corey, I know you had switched as well.
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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Re: Synthetic Winch Line

Originally posted by XtremeOff-Road
Well my synthetic line came in today, let me tell you I have never realized how much of a pain that steel line is! Anyhow, just thought I would share, I think it was an excellent decision to change out the line. Are there several others that run the synthetic line, besides Steve and Corey, I know you had switched as well.
You have got to love that stuff I have been running the synthetic since the early Spring It's strong and light and works like a charm. If you didn't get the rock sleeve for it, get it. The only downside I have found to it is that it abrades pretty quickly and that sleeve does wonders for saving the line.

I had used steel since I started wheeling and this was a nice change for the better I haven't yet trusted it enough to use it for an arial tramway, but I am growing to trust it more with each use.
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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I hate to say it, but there is a new line out now that looks like it's better than the stuff we have, the UHMWPE.

This stuff is stronger, and can wisthstand heat better.
Here is a quote:

Will the plastic rope melt on a hot winch drum? Yes or No, depending on which product you're talking about. Heat is a real concern, but only with the UHMWPE, which has a melting temperature of 284° F, and a critical temperature (the point at which the rope starts to weaken) of only 150° F. The drum of a Warn winch can be expected to reach temperatures well over 200° F (one source says as high as 300° F). The Technora aramid fiber-based X-Line rope does not begin to decompose until over 900° F, and X-Line can be used at nearly 400° F for long periods of time without loss of strength. At last, a winch product that doesn't have heat as an Achilles heel!
Here is the artilce from ODW's Jeep section.
http://www.4x4wire.com/reviews/oro_xline02/
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 06:18 AM
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I love the stuff and will never use steel cable again.
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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On that new line I posted a link too, I wonder how many have had a failure with the Masterpull or Rockstomper stuff?
It's the same stuff used by both.

I don't think there can be to many, as that article is the first I have heard about it.

Plus look at all the professional rock crawling championships that take place.
They are required now to use synth line, and more than likely it's Masterpull being a big sponser.

Steel cable is outlawed now at most major RC events for this reason.

I'll stick with the stuff I bought. I'm happy with it
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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That's really interesting about steel cables being outlawed from competetions. I have to strongly recomend synth line for winches. It won't rust, kink or cut your hand with a barb or "fish hook."
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Old Oct 12, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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I'll see if I can dig up where I read that. It was more than one place...

Ah, the search feature here works great

http://www.4wdandsportutility.com/te...94wd_stronger/

And a quote:
The sport of rockcrawling has quickly become very popular, and with tougher trails being added each year, the possibility of vehicles requiring the use of winches during these competitions is almost certain. ARCA felt that the use of conventional wire cable during competition was simply not safe around the increasing number of spectators at these events. Although a rarity, mishaps do happen, and a broken cable flying through the air could cause serious injury.

If a Master-Pull winch rope snaps, however, it simply falls to the ground. ARCA saw this as a huge advantage and now requires that all vehicles competing in ARCA-sanctioned events use a rope-type cable substitute such as the Mater-Pull winch rope.
Here's a steel cable snapping from the land down under.

They slowed down the video so you could hear it better.
Sounds like a gun shot.
Near the end you hear a guy talking real slooooooow. Almost sounds like a bear grunting.
I wonder if any software can speed the vid back up to hear what he says.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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Since synthetic lines have been out for a while now I'm curious to hear from folks about which type of synthetic lines are working well. Anyone know of a better material than the Technora?
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:04 AM
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I am running the 5/16" X 100' Viking Trail Line with Winch Safety Thimble.

It has held up well, and it is exposed to sun, rain, ect.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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for us poor foke, this stuff has some good reviews




http://www.redneckconcepts.com/rope.php
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Most of the winch ropes are either AmSteel Blue (redneck) or Tech 12 (Fire Line). You have to learn to trust it. It doesn't look or feel like it can take the weight but it is stronger than steel!
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Old Feb 16, 2009 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey
This stuff is stronger, and can wisthstand heat better.
IMO, it's pretty heat sensitive.
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