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Gutter Guard Mod

Old May 25, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by mpulver
Actually, at this point, it's still becoming an issue to get the stuff in the PNW!
Yeah, maybe because it rains so much there....But if you want, I have all the stock numbers off the stuff in my pictures section. It seems like you should be able to call up Lowes, give them the scan code numbers and have them order some in for you. Haven't tried this but just a thought. Hope it works out for you!
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Old May 25, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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Re: Re: Gutters

Originally posted by Sucellus
Yes, they will! I didn't believe you earlier, but as it has been raining non-stop in richmond for longer than I can remember, the gutter-guard has been put to the rust test. I'm afraid it did not fair so well. I am looking into a way to clear-coat it(perhaps some transparent acrylic spray paint?). Luckly WT had helped me make a couple extra in preparation for the un-expected.

Sorry to bump this older thread, but I just felt that it would be irresponsible to not report this. If anyone has done this mod, just a heads up before it rusts and you have to go through cutting and all again.
Hmmm I better go check it out in the morning ... Last I checked it still looked okay to me but maybe that was till all the rain set in this weekend....
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Old May 25, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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Hey guys I'm wondering if the reason your gutter guard is rusting is because you used metal wire to hold it in. When two different metals touch I'm pretty sure it will cause electrolysis, which will cause rusting. I used zip ties on the interior of mine and have had it on for over a year and half, have driven it from here to Maine in salt weather and have never had a problem with rusting.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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WT,
Does your car live outside? You saw where mine lives under those trees and all, so its possible I've had more water exposure. Let me know what you see though.

Milan,
That is wild that you have taken yours all over, and mine has not been on all that long. Did you use the exact same stuff? It is possible that whatever is on it is not rust...maybe gunk from the tree or something, but it sure looks like rust, and it seems to be most prevelent around the cuts.
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Old May 25, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by Sucellus
Milan,
That is wild that you have taken yours all over, and mine has not been on all that long. Did you use the exact same stuff?
I think that Milan is on to something with the dissimilar metals. The gutter material is aluminum and the attachment wire that folks are probably using will be steel. That may have a lot to do with what you're seeing.

Plus, if you live in an area that has tough winters, with road salt, that's going to make a difference as well.

Up here in the PNW, we get rain, but not a lot of snow (well, the mountains do of course, but I tend to stay low).

I plan to do some experiments - once I get my hands on this stuff!
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Old May 26, 2003 | 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by Sucellus
WT,
Does your car live outside? You saw where mine lives under those trees and all, so its possible I've had more water exposure. Let me know what you see though.

Milan,
That is wild that you have taken yours all over, and mine has not been on all that long. Did you use the exact same stuff? It is possible that whatever is on it is not rust...maybe gunk from the tree or something, but it sure looks like rust, and it seems to be most prevelent around the cuts.
Yeah mine lives outside all the time too, went out this morning to find all is well not a spot of rust at all... hmmmm just around the cuts that is wierd. Guess what Milan said is possible the 2 disimilar metals could cause this issue not sure doh. I used galvanized wire not sure if that makes any difference. I do remember maybe I got my gutter guard from Home Depot and you had gotten yours from Lowes wonder if the material it was made from was different between the two place. Makes me want to visit HD today and take a look at who makes theres again since I didn't save any of the labels off mine and didn't get a picture of it.....
Keep us update if it really is rust Secellus it is kinda a wierd situation cause if its only rusting at the edges were the cuts are. Then when we cut it, it must of removed some type of protective film or something, but if its rusting all over its another issue for sure (electrolysis perhaps).
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Old May 26, 2003 | 04:20 AM
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The gutter guard is probably zinc galvanized. Find yourself some zinc galvanized wire and you should be OK.

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Old May 26, 2003 | 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by Sucellus
Milan,
That is wild that you have taken yours all over, and mine has not been on all that long. Did you use the exact same stuff? It is possible that whatever is on it is not rust...maybe gunk from the tree or something, but it sure looks like rust, and it seems to be most prevelent around the cuts.
The stuff I bought is the aluminized gutter guard from Home Depot and then I used plastic zip ties. I don't know why else yours would rust.
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Old May 26, 2003 | 10:23 AM
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The stuff i got is aluminium too! Could be on for 100yeas and never rust. Cost a bit too, as i bought it in a motor factors. Worth it though, if i never have to do it again!
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Old May 27, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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Wt,
Hmm, I think I might just go by home depot and see what they have. Glad to hear that yours is fairing better!

Milan,
That's an interesting idea about the metals. I don't know for sure of what the gutter world gutter-guard was made. I seem to remember that it was galvanized, though. It seems most everyone used an aluminized product. I checked the wire I used to mount it, and the wire is definately galvanized. The wire wasn't rusting, though.

Thanks for all the help and ideas, I'll post my findings!
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Old May 27, 2003 | 08:39 AM
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I'm finding it hard to believe a product that is suppost to used outside would rust all by itself.
I have been using it for 2+ years with no problems
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Old May 27, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by pfdaxe

I have been using it for 2+ years with no problems
Then again you live in Arizona......
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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Just wanted to bump it and try and check out those install photos. The link isn't working now. (8 months later) I'm thinking a lot about doing this mod.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 02:01 AM
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Originally posted by pinoy
Just wanted to bump it and try and check out those install photos. The link isn't working now. (8 months later) I'm thinking a lot about doing this mod.
Here a link to my album that has a few when i did mine I think I still have pics from when we also did Sucellus on one of my PC's so if this is not what your looking for drop me a note.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...70979415BtZtyh
Dang you must of used the search feature well to pull this one from so long ago lol.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 02:07 AM
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I want to do that and spray paint it black. I think that would look great on my truck. Who knows, though.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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This guy has Aluminum Mesh cheap. It won't rust....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33645


And this guy has 9" wide x 48" long strips of Red Anodized aluminum mesh for grills. Looks like other colors are available but he only has the red for sale now.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33645

Just found more info on the colored anodized grill inserts.


The brand is "G2 ALU StylingGrille Kit"
found more info here:$30.00
http://www.g2usa.com/press3.shtml

Not cheap but anodized aluminum will hold up better than trying to paint the galvanized steel crap.

Besides with the 9" width I may be able to do the wife's tacoma now.

Lowest price so far is here:
http://www.fastvws.com/acatalog/FAST...Grills_24.html

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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Here's the latest search results from ebay motors...

http://search.ebaymotors.com/search/...98398+60254167

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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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I started to mod a 2wd grill over the weekend, got everything cut out, but I couldn't find any wire snips for the mesh!


I have a question, and I will read through tomorrow to see if it is answered already, but getting tired now...

Do you run the mesh along the inside wall of the hole to the back of the grill and attach it, or do you just cut it to the shape of the hole and attach it towards the front of the grill? I was going to run it back, but I don't want it to look cheesy either.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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PWT, running the mesh more towards the back adds some rigidness to the form. I got mine at HD and it was galvanized. I'm thinking although the aluminum won't rust, it won't be as rigid as the steel. That's a big hole and you'd want it as stiff as possible. I like the blacked out look and the epoxy paint stays shiney and rust free.


http://community.webshots.com/photo/...02373489vPESHx
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 03:49 AM
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Butnut, Looking good. I like the black look may I will have to go looking for that black epoxy paint ? where can I find some of that ?
Well figured I post a reply here since on occasion i get a few PM's to where I got my gutter guard material, I got mine from home depot and have seen the same stuff over at Lowes too, here is PIC of the label on the stuff, I know how everyone likes PICS here.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...13887564IrPxrP

PWT mines overlayed ontop of the main grill, its pretty stiff too, I opted not to cut out anything
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