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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 02:52 AM
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I love it!
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 05:03 AM
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I'm thinking I like the new tow-capacity. Looks like I could get one of them fancy new ones and have it be the tow rig for my current Tacoma.

The Tundra is an option for that...but it's too big for taking to the Park-n-Ride, and I would probably get better mileage with the Taco.

I wonder if you can buy one without those big, ugly fenders...? I'm not too keen on the shape...
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by outahere
It is amazing how urban legends perpetuate themselves on the internet. As others have stated, the Tacoma and Colorado/Canyon are NOT the same truck with different badges.

Another rumor going around is that the V6 in the 2005 Tacoma would have direct injection, and that is also false.
Urban Legen? Typically, when the "sibling" is used in the automotive world it means two largely identical vehicles badged differently. Since I'm pulling this right from the article I don't think it can get urban legend status just yet.

All aside it is good to see a Toyota is still a Toyota.

Frank
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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[QUOTE=elripster]Not according to what I read today. They are the same except for motors. The Chevy will have the inline engine.


Is this the same article as was first posted ? Or is there a another write up on the 2005 Tacoma somewhere else too?
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by elripster
Urban Legen? Typically, when the "sibling" is used in the automotive world it means two largely identical vehicles badged differently. Since I'm pulling this right from the article I don't think it can get urban legend status just yet.

All aside it is good to see a Toyota is still a Toyota.

Frank
I'm with Frank on this.

As stated earlier, there is a joint venture GM/Toyota plant in Freemont California.

Why is this such a stretch for some of you guys?

The Toyota Matrix and Pontic Vibe are basically the same car.

I know it's a hard concept to swallow - I'd never spend my hard earned money on a Chevy....

...unless of course it was a 67 Malibu convertable, or maybe a 67 Nova, or 69 Camaro....
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Jeez, sometimes I wonder about you guys.
Here is the quote directly from pickuptruck mag:
"With 245 horsepower and peak torque of 282 lb-ft, the Toyota V6 is one of the top-rated engines of any compact/midsize truck.

Nissan recently announced its 4.0-liter V6 will be rated at 265 horsepower and 284 lb-ft. Chevy/GMC offers an inline-5 engine rated at 220 horsepower and 225 lb-ft for the Colorado/Canyon siblings.

The Dodge Dakota has a base V6 engine 210 horsepower and a base 4.7-liter V8 rated at 230 horsepower (a special High-Output edition is rated at more than 250 horsepower)."

Here is another one on the same page:
"The next-generation Tacoma is derived from Toyota’s Prado platform, which is the basis for the Lexus GX470 and Toyota 4Runner SUVs."

The Chevy/GM siblings (meaning that the Chevy and GM are the same) have nothing in common with the Tacoma.
DIFFERENT WHEELBASES
DIFFERENT BED DIMENSIONS
DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS IN EVERYTHING
DIFFERENT FRAME
DIFFERENT ENGINES
DIFFERENT EVERYTHING

Look under the Chevy and look under the Tacoma. Look on Chevy's website and compare everything. Write to pickuptruck.com and ask them.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Where does it say they're related? Helloooo...re-read the wording of the article.

The only place it mentions the '05 Tacoma's roots is when it says it's based off the Prado platform. How the heck does Chevy get to release the Colorado a year before the Tacoma, with a different engine than previous years, and base it off of Toyota's proprietary platform that is not even available in the states? Explain that one to me.

I'm not getting angry, I just don't want this one to slip by...we need to keep our facts straight people.

Jim
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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I agree it says nothing about the two being related.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstToy
Jeez, sometimes I wonder about you guys.
Here is the quote directly from pickuptruck mag:
"With 245 horsepower and peak torque of 282 lb-ft, the Toyota V6 is one of the top-rated engines of any compact/midsize truck.

Nissan recently announced its 4.0-liter V6 will be rated at 265 horsepower and 284 lb-ft. Chevy/GMC offers an inline-5 engine rated at 220 horsepower and 225 lb-ft for the Colorado/Canyon siblings.

The Dodge Dakota has a base V6 engine 210 horsepower and a base 4.7-liter V8 rated at 230 horsepower (a special High-Output edition is rated at more than 250 horsepower)."

Here is another one on the same page:
"The next-generation Tacoma is derived from Toyota’s Prado platform, which is the basis for the Lexus GX470 and Toyota 4Runner SUVs."

The Chevy/GM siblings (meaning that the Chevy and GM are the same) have nothing in common with the Tacoma.
DIFFERENT WHEELBASES
DIFFERENT BED DIMENSIONS
DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS IN EVERYTHING
DIFFERENT FRAME
DIFFERENT ENGINES
DIFFERENT EVERYTHING

Look under the Chevy and look under the Tacoma. Look on Chevy's website and compare everything. Write to pickuptruck.com and ask them.
LOL, will this be enough to satisfy the doubters? It is truly mystifying why some people insist the Colorado/Canyon and the new Tacoma are the same truck. In addition to the differences stated above, the Colorado/Canyon is manufactured at the GM plant in Shreveport LA and the Tacoma will be manufactured in Fremont, CA and also in Baja, Mexico. Just because all three trucks have a similar fender opening, does not mean they are the same truck.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparman
I'm with Frank on this.

As stated earlier, there is a joint venture GM/Toyota plant in Freemont California.

Why is this such a stretch for some of you guys?

The Toyota Matrix and Pontic Vibe are basically the same car.

I know it's a hard concept to swallow - I'd never spend my hard earned money on a Chevy....

...unless of course it was a 67 Malibu convertable, or maybe a 67 Nova, or 69 Camaro....
Go the official web site for the NUMMI plant in CA, and read what it says under the heading "WHAT WE MAKE". It says they make the Corolla, the Vibe, and the Tacoma. NO Canyon, NO Colorado. If you still don't believe this, they have plant tours available and you can see with your own eyes what they do and don't manufacture.

http://www.nummi.com/vehicles.html
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Good Times
I've already experienced a few issues with the small parts integrated into the shifter to make it a gated feel. But in all reality it's really not what you think it really is. Dang small springs and a rod causes some problems here and there. I think that toyota skimped out on this one piece for the gate shifter as I would have done some of the design differently.
BUT IT'S FUUUUUUN (stomps around, whiney, throws tantrum )

They NUMMI plant only makes cars. In fact, the prius and the vibe are the SAME car. Me and my 12yr old nephew could switch out the parts that make them different in a day including time alotted for his 6hr Game Boy breaks. I think the first car to come out of the plant was the Corolla/Prizm.

I guess it would help if I would stop telling people the Sequoia is a re-engineered Expedition.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CoedNaked
More of the 2005 Tacoma

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/2005...ive/page1.html

LOOKING GOOD!!!
I personally wish the 4runner's front end looked like this. The front fenders are ok, but the back is just bla.

What is a "2-tier loading, removable tailgate?"

and the storage compartments in the bed are awesome.

Overall, I might have to start saving my pennies!

Just a curiosity question, but anybody know if they are dropping the "flareside/sportside" bed style?
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RebuiltRunner
They NUMMI plant only makes cars. In fact, the prius and the vibe are the SAME car.
That's interesting.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by outahere
Just checked Toyotas specs on the 4Runner, and they list the 4.0L V6 mileage as 18/21 for 2WD and 17/21 for 4WD. Strange that the 4runner does 4mpg worse than the larger Tundra on highway mileage. Also surprised to see that the 4WD V6 4Runner and the 2WD AC Tundra both weigh around 4300 lb. I had assumed the Tundra was much heavier, but its not.
4runners weigh so god damn much.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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Ok I see it. Somehow I got the connection between the two switched up.

This is one of those times it is good to be mistaken.

Frank
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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But this story isn’t about Ford’s self-inflicted demise
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Here is a blast from the past...How close was I?


This was from way back too, b/c I liked the front so much..
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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According to the first drive report at this site http://www.autosite.com/Reviews/2005-toyota-tacoma.asp the 4.0L V6 will require premium fuel. Does that sound correct? Does the 4runner with this motor require premium fuel?

Which powertrain is going to work best offroad, the 6 speed manual or the auto trans with hill control and descent control?

I wonder if, as with the 4runner with its auto trans and torsen center diff, you can run the auto trans Tacoma on hard pavement in 4WD (in snow, slush, and rain)?
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