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Old Jul 30, 2015 | 12:33 PM
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I used the 86 motor and it still had the cherry manifold, I have swapped out the computer, ran hundreds of test, sent to Toyota, had other mechanics to check it and feel it has to be in the wiring or something the computer is not catching to find the issue. I know the 86 motor and wiring is good.

I am really starting to like the 22r motor. I know three trucks in town and never seem to have any issues. No corroded crimps, emission codes, messed up injector connectors, and the list goes on. Seems like the 22r with a Webber just has so much less issues. I am already considering swapping my 85 to a 22r with a Webber.

I did get it started about 30 minutes ago. Mostly a reminder for me.

Swap Thermostat Housings
Swap Exhaust Manifolds
Wires on Transmission
Finish installing Dash


88 and newer as O2 sensor in exhaust pipe. I torqued the "Y" pipe to the manifold and am not looking forward to that job. Sure am hoping the impact wrench will break it loose.
87 and older has a sensor in the thermostat housing.

I try to hide the mileage and age of this truck. It has 320k miles on it but the pedals still tell the signs of it getting used. I replaced them once. It is just something I look at when looking at used cars or projects. Later on I am going to go thru all the brakes on this truck after getting it back on the road.

I will say I like how stockinteriors.com carpet has held up for the red color. The gray color looks alright in my 86 but I would try gray from a different manufacture. Red I would go back to stockinteriors.com.

Tattle tale signs of the brakes getting used. Not sure why the carpet has a black spot on it in the picture as it still looks new.
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Old Aug 5, 2015 | 03:19 AM
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Whew, Terry, that is a chunk of work to get done. Glad your interior is holding up nicely, such a pretty pretty truck!
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Old Aug 5, 2015 | 08:40 AM
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Tattle tale signs of the brakes getting used. Not sure why the carpet has a black spot on it in the picture as it still looks new.
Black spot = shadow maybe?

I admire you keeping track of so many projects
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Old Aug 5, 2015 | 08:31 PM
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Hey Terry! Glad to see you are still plugging away at all your projects. Keeps me motivated and wondering why I dont get off my rear more to work in my rig.
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Old Aug 6, 2015 | 11:52 AM
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Thanks Hab... I have put a ton of work to get it looking as great as it is. I get more compliments on it then any other truck I have done in the past.

Thanks Rob...The cherry manifold set me back on my projects. I am really hoping to get bak to working on projects soon instead of daily drivers. It is a shadow in the picture. Must be a smudge on my camera.

Hello Mark...I have been trying to get going on my projects as well. Seems like I am in a slump. Some of it has been the heat and working over time. Hope to get moving on things like I used to do. Maybe I need a kick in the rear.
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Old Aug 6, 2015 | 12:02 PM
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I was messing with the exhaust and the pipe broke off in the muffler. It was getting in bad shape so I just took it to the muffler shop and got the whole exhaust replaced. Still need to put some trim pieces back in on the interior and then hope to get back to a few other fixes. Some how I have an oil leak I need to chase down and start taking it on some test runs and see if I have all the bugs worked out.

I did see Misty had one of the wipers replaced and my guess is she had one of the parts store guys to put it on for her, something I was unaware of. She only had one replaced. I replace the in sets. You can tell she has two different brands on. She was probably trying to save a dollar or two. At least that will be an easy fix.

Getting a new exhaust system. I was asked by another member recently and just to keep track of my expenses on this build , but from the "Y" pipe to the end it was $130.
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Old Aug 6, 2015 | 12:07 PM
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tSome other work I will be getting to here shortly is

The brakes, I want to get them like my 85. That truck stops quick and hers need a complete job all the way around.

Been working on getting the parts to finally get her AC working.

Get the wiring kit from 12voltguy.com to get rid of the rear window issue that just seems to plague these trucks.

Once I get those three things done I think I am finally finished with this project for a while or so I hope.

I despise jury rigging things but I had an exhaust leak at the manifold to head. I had a new gasket but still got a leak. Most gaskets are basically a thin card board gasket. I checked my local parts store for a better gasket. The Beck Arney was $45 from them and was going to take a week to get. I ordered one from ebay and getting the exact one for $25 shipped.

In the mean time I wanted to get it sealed up and stop leaking. Seems to be working fine. I wanted a thicker gasket that had some crush material to help seal it. Instead of waiting I had an extra gasket. I drilled the rivets out and installed it on top of the new one I already had. I did not get more pictures as I am having to use one of my brats computer to post pictures.

Here is what is left after I drilled it out the rivets. The piece not showing is what is used to have a thicker gasket. Not the kind of fix I wanted to do but is working for now. May actually not be a jury rigged fix and might be something I will do the next time I get in a bind. I am going to leave it as it is and will have a spare exhaust gasket next week.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 10:00 AM
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Another news thing I just found about the collectors someday http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/...resectionlists

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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 04:30 PM
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the carbed trucks have their own issues terry ya cant really take um up an down angles as severe as ya can a injected truck carbs can flood the engine
my exhaust 2 1/4 from the y back was 75 plus had to toss a bit more as it needed to be rerouted around the spare paid for materials not labor as he admited he didnt think about the spare
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 02:06 PM
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Hello Cyberhorn... With a Weber, seems like several problems go away. The 85 has been running great lately but it sure seems like sometimes the EFI motors can have their issues. My 4 wheeling days are over. I will get back into when the brats get older and if they want to get into it then I will get back into it. Seems like the older I get the smoother the ride I want. I used to never be so picky on a smooth ride. No way would I take one of my truck wheeling. I was Dr. Destructo when I wheeled. I get an old bombed out truck and usually if I put a dent in it, it knocked a dent out elsewhere. It did take a chainsaw and a tractor to get me out one time.

Thanks for the info on the AC today. I will be getting with you on that more as I get some more of the parts around.
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 02:12 PM
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I pulled the transmission out thinking I had a Rear Main Seal leak. I am now sure it is the half moof that was causing the leak. I used a new seal with sealant on the seal and it still leaked. I think I got that fixed.

While I had the transmission out, I had to replace the flywheel as it has some bad teeth on it. It would only land on the broken teeth once in a great while and it did it the other day. Wish I would of remembered it when I swapped the motor out on it recently. Oh well guess now is as good as any other time.

Here is the teeth that are chipped. Doesnt take much.
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I forgot which way the clutch actually mounted to the flywheel. Luckily I had an old clutch laying around. I was sure the flat part went to the fly wheel and the hub part went to the toward the transmission. Mostly a reference picture for me, but I have run into clutches not always marked.
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 03:00 PM
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Hello Cyberhorn... With a Weber, seems like several problems go away. The 85 has been running great lately but it sure seems like sometimes the EFI motors can have their issues. My 4 wheeling days are over. I will get back into when the brats get older and if they want to get into it then I will get back into it. Seems like the older I get the smoother the ride I want. I used to never be so picky on a smooth ride. No way would I take one of my truck wheeling. I was Dr. Destructo when I wheeled. I get an old bombed out truck and usually if I put a dent in it, it knocked a dent out elsewhere. It did take a chainsaw and a tractor to get me out one time.

Thanks for the info on the AC today. I will be getting with you on that more as I get some more of the parts around.
always glad to help an thank you for the help with parts
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 04:51 AM
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No problem Cyberhorn.. Glad I could get you a little closer to getting your truck to where you want it to be. I am collecting the parts to get AC going on the 88 and when I get everything around I am sure I will be asking for some help on it.
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 05:08 AM
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I changed the flywheel on the 88 and put it all togther. It started slipping in the higher gears. Never understood why a clutch will slip at higher speeds when there is less torque on it then when at lower speeds.

I suspect the flywheel I used was the culprit even though it was turned and in great shape. I did not want to pull the transmission again and not sure why the clutch failed so since it had to come out again, I just replaced the everything with a new clutch and flywheel. It is $25 to turn a flywheel or $55 for a new flywheel. From now on I am just going to replace flywheels when doing a clutch.

A friend of mine has a lift and a transmission jack. What a difference that makes in speed along with air tools and two of us working on it. I think from start to finish it was less then 2 hours. My best is 4 hours and everything going great. Normally 6 hours is the norm and it has taken me 8 hours.

The cherry manifold sure set me back and caused a few other issues but I am getting them worked out. I am getting the 88 back in tip top shape. I have slowly been collecting AC parts and have most of a complete front end rebuild kit for it. Steering is fine but I have never done any front end work on it and sure it will eventually need it. I am also going to go thru the complete brake system and will start getting the parts for it here shortly. Truck has 322,000 miles on it and just looking ahead. I am looking forward to the 333,333 mile marker to be 1/3 of a million miles on it. I want to see 500k or even a million on it someday.

I did get a front bumper for the 85 and Rancho front shocks. It has a Rancho springs which I understand adds a 3 inch lift. I was considering going with 33s on it but that requires a 4.88 rear end and I actually want to lower it back to the normal ride height. I dont care for jumping up into a truck. After the 88 is where I want it, I want to get factory springs and 31s on it. Bigger tires and lift look great on trucks, just not on mine.

Parts are stacking up, just need to get them on.
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Old Aug 27, 2015 | 06:35 PM
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Terry your builds always look like they go so smooth even with your set backs you get a lot done!!!!!

Always enjoy watching your builds!
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 03:52 PM
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1988 4Runner Rebuild

I'm impressed with all of your hard work and not taking any shortcuts.
I am starting a project on a 1988 4Runner that has a lot of sentimental value to me.
First I am trying to get the mechanical stuff working.
So far - new plugs, new tie rod ends, new power steering pump, etc., It runs smooth except for a slight hesitation when accelerating from idle. May be a vacuum leak?

Next is replacing the damaged body trim. I have ordered some stuff, but I haven't actually started the replacement.

I have a long way to go, but eventually I'll get it done. I will need some help along the way and I hope you don't mind me asking you guys for opinions and technical help.
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 07:30 PM
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Thanks dirtdobber..It was a set back but I will get it back in order shortly. I really dont have much more to go to have it where I want it again. I got plenty to do just need to get moving again.
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 07:38 PM
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Hello mseale.. Glad I get to be the first post you on Yotatech. You will enjoy your runner when you get the repairs done on it and some upgrades. Yours being an 88 it will have a few things different from the rest of the runners. It is the only year of injectors on it. To verify it is an 88, check to see if the injectors are red and that the O2 sensor is down by the transfer case. An 89 will be the same thing but I really dont see many of those. The best way is to check the door tag saying what year and month it is.

On the idle, I would check for vacuum leaks. Go thru the intake system and get the crud from the EGR cleaned out. Clean all of your sensors and make sure all hoses are cleared of gunk as well. After all that is in order, do your timing and valves.

Anytime you have questions feel free to ask. Always like seeing another one on the road. Any questions and I can posssibly post some pictures that will help and how to do it. Just got to jump in and do it. Welcome to Yotatech.
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Old Aug 30, 2015 | 03:22 AM
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1988 4Runner

Thanks for the advice for the hesitation from idle. I appreciate your help and I will post some other questions/successes soon.
I originally purchased this 4Runner in 2004. I gave it to my oldest son in 2010. He was born in 1988 (the same year of this 4Runner).
It eventually became overlooked as far as maintenance and TLC. He used it and put it through the mill.
He passed away on August 6th from smoke inhalation in a house fire. I can't put in words the hurt my wife, our other son, and I have been through and are still going through. We are holding on to God, the Great Comforter, for strength and He is faithful and has got us through and will continue to help us heal.
I got the 4Runner back to my home and started working on it as a therapeutic way to heal and still connect with him.
We had some good times in this old truck and I want to get it back in good shape.
The pic was taken about 8 years ago.
The truck's front plastics was melted completely off from the fire, as well as the left front tire. the windshield blistered, etc.,,There are several areas on the body that need repair from little mishaps, but I'll get to those in time.
Sorry for the long post. I am looking forward to the tasks and the therapy it brings.
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Old Aug 30, 2015 | 03:01 PM
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Hello mseale... Great to see another Christian brother on here. Sorry to hear about your son. I hear it is one of the toughest things you can go thru. I see you are just a couple of years older then me and I see the last 20 years just fly by that I know the next 20 or so will be here soon enough. Before you know it you will be seeing him soon since you raised him right. Just getting thru the next bit of time is going to be tough to deal with. My step son is a year youger and cant imagine that and makes me appreciate my two younger ones that much more.

Even if your truck was still as nice as it is in the picture, there is still alot of work to get one back into shape. Age and previous owners have taken their toll on them. Glad to say that most is easily to get back into shape for a little time and effort. Fire damage will add some to it but since it still runs, it is just cosmetics. Everything forward of the doors is easily obtainable. You have the 3 bolt mirrors and doors that I prefer but is the hardest to find. I have only seen a couple of trucks with them on here.

Not sure of your experience on working on trucks, but if this is your first restore, I would keep it as a rolling project. Just being able to drive it around the block will give you an incentive to keep working on it. I would not tear it down to every nut and bolt. It may look like an eye sore now but if you just look at the current task at hand and not the big picture you will get it there.

If you and your other son can work on it together, wrenches, oil, and scraped knuckels is a great bonding thing for guys. Not only the history of your truck but building one and being able to depend on it to get you several hundered miles from home and back is a reward to experience. Anyone can buy a dependable truck but building one really just takes a little time and patience.

Realistically it is going to take a year or two to build it. It will cost a few dollars but not a bank breaker if you just take your time. When waiting for funds, there is always something that can be done that doesnt cost anything. These trucks are easy to work on and the information on this site can get you thru about anything you are going to run into. Basic tools can do 90% of the work these.

Later on when you get to the body work, you might want to give it a try. You are not going to do any more damage to it and a professional body shop can always undo any mistake you might make. That is the challenge. Not so much as the paint but getting it panels smooth. I would still suggest giving painting a try. A reward there too.

I groan when I have to work on a daily driver. Working on a project can be relaxing as no pressure to get it on the road. When you get stumped just step away from it for a while and things generally go better the next time around. I have tore these trucks down and back up from one end to the next and can let you know how to get around things that you may run into.

The computer wont throw codes for everything. If it is still having some idle issues after what was mentioned before. I would get a Haynes Manual and check the Air Flow Meter. A quick resistance check will let you know if it is good. Check to see if the flapper is moving freely. The computer does not throw codes for everything and does miss quite a bit.

Then I would check the TPS with a resistance check on it as well. There is a few threads on here about how to disassemble and clean the contacts on it. You can get it to pass checks but if you have 200k miles on it, the TPS has been cycled over a milliion times. I would replace it with a new one instead of repairing it. Dont replace it unless you are sure it is bad and only after you have done all of the other things first.

Stay with what the factory installed. There are a few part store parts I use like fuel filters. Some factory parts can be bought from the dealer at part store prices. Online is a great place for getting factory parts that the dealer is over priced on.
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