86-95 Trucks & 4Runners (Build-Up Section) Post your build-ups here

Speedcrazy's 94 Pickup Evolution

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 14, 2013 | 07:29 PM
  #101  
bone collector's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,025
Likes: 40
From: Northen Indiana
Are these complete tanks? fuel sending units and all? there are different Sizes of tanks. 14,17 and 19 gallon tanks i believe. the lengths and widths are pretty much the same. the overall heigth is the big difference, which in turn will affect the length of the fuel sending unit. so a 19 gallon sending would be too long for a 14 gallon tank and vice versa...
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 03:34 AM
  #102  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Originally Posted by bone collector
Are these complete tanks? fuel sending units and all? there are different Sizes of tanks. 14,17 and 19 gallon tanks i believe. the lengths and widths are pretty much the same. the overall heigth is the big difference, which in turn will affect the length of the fuel sending unit. so a 19 gallon sending would be too long for a 14 gallon tank and vice versa...
I'm not sure yet, going to take a look this afternoon, i hope they are complete. I currently have a 17 i believe. So i just need to measure the height of my tank and see if any match? I wouldn't mind upgrading to a 19 but definitely wouldn't downgrade. I'm hoping he also has the tank skid plate.

Btw, any way to test for leaks before i buy?
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 06:19 AM
  #103  
bbrideau's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: Fernie, British Columbia, Canada
uhmmmm, not sure if they switched tank shape or style from the previous generation to yours, might want to look it up before you buy it, not sayin you can't retrofit it if is different just a thought tho. Nice find for sure if they're in decent shape.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 06:45 AM
  #104  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Originally Posted by bbrideau
uhmmmm, not sure if they switched tank shape or style from the previous generation to yours, might want to look it up before you buy it, not sayin you can't retrofit it if is different just a thought tho. Nice find for sure if they're in decent shape.
I think they are the same from 86 through 95. Wasn't really sure how to find out for sure so i went to autoparts warehouse .com and they wanted to sell me the same tank for a 88 as for a 94. So i should be good. If not i just clean it up and sell it... If i was confident i could do it quick and not find anything else broken i would just pull my current one, drain it clean it and red kote it but i don't need any more down time than i can help, plus i can kote it then sell it once i switch.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 12:05 PM
  #105  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Well Ladies and Gents please excuse me while i holler SCORE! and run around in circles, first time a cl find has really worked for me.
Got to the fella's house and he said he'd gone to his shop and pulled a 93 long bed tank for me! Real clean, barley any surface rust, new filler neck and cap, intact fuel lines(one is rather rusty). Some of the mounting bolts came with it too, unfortunately he couldn't find the skid plate. AND .... its FULL. free 17.2 or 19.1 gallons of gas!
Name:  IMG_0313_zpsfb242669.jpg
Views: 42
Size:  80.8 KB
Name:  IMG_0315_zps078a04a7.jpg
Views: 42
Size:  54.7 KB
Thats mud on the lower piece, scrapes off with my finger.
Name:  IMG_0314_zpse6da2980.jpg
Views: 41
Size:  74.7 KB
My plan right now is to drain her, clean her up real good, red kote her inside and out then replace the fuel lines. Then i'll switch tanks and give my old tank the same treatment and sell 'er.
Always welcome to other ideas.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 05:05 PM
  #106  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Forgot to note, i was riding back from work with my friend and we were hearing this weird rattling noise, and couldn't figure out what it was. Well as i was pulling out i turned around to look behind me while i backed up, and the tailgate was hanging at a strange angle. Turns out the passenger side shoulder bolt which supports the tailgate had backed out and fallen off.
never rains but i pours eh?
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 06:00 PM
  #107  
bone collector's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,025
Likes: 40
From: Northen Indiana
Great find on the gas tank!!! but how long has the gas been in there?? sorry to hear about the tailgate bolt. you should be able to fix that easily.. keep up the good work
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 06:02 PM
  #108  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Originally Posted by bone collector
Great find on the gas tank!!! but how long has the gas been in there?? sorry to hear about the tailgate bolt. you should be able to fix that easily.. keep up the good work
II don't know, gonna put it in the lawn mower i think. Don't want to risk the truck, though a free tank of gas is real tempting with gas prices heading back up around here.
Tail gate needs a shoulder bolt, 8 mm i think. Have to pull the other one and see.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 06:10 PM
  #109  
bone collector's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,025
Likes: 40
From: Northen Indiana
the gas would be good for the lawn mower and weed eater. I definitely would not trust it for your truck, lets be honest you have had enough problems lately..... lol
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2013 | 06:15 PM
  #110  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Originally Posted by bone collector
the gas would be good for the lawn mower and weed eater. I definitely would not trust it for your truck, lets be honest you have had enough problems lately..... lol
Absolutely. And the amount of rain we keep getting i will be burning more gas on cutting grass than driving

Went by the shop tonight to weld up the shock mounts, and stymied again...... its my friend's dad's shop and he told us we could use and he said he would leave the key where we could find it, well we get there and find a bunch of keys but not the right one. Call him and ask "where is the shop key", on my keyring" , "where's your keyring", "in my pocket" . Woulda been 2 hour drive to get the keys. So my buddy is gonna do it for me while i'm away next week.

What i need to do is come up with a to do list and start knocking it out rather than waiting for stuff to go wrong.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 06:28 AM
  #111  
bbrideau's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: Fernie, British Columbia, Canada
planning is key to getting all your ducks in a row, i tried doing stuff by the seat of my pants and found i would end up getting lost in it all, and if u find stuff along the way add it to the list, i find i get a lot more done that way.

congratz on the tank!
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2013 | 06:44 AM
  #112  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Originally Posted by bbrideau
planning is key to getting all your ducks in a row, i tried doing stuff by the seat of my pants and found i would end up getting lost in it all, and if u find stuff along the way add it to the list, i find i get a lot more done that way.

congratz on the tank!
Yeah. My problem is i grab a few minutes here and a few there and want to accomplish things. Rarely works out that way. My biggest problem is this is off season so money is tight, but come peak i'll have the money but no time. Seems one can never win eh?
Starting a list of to do projects small and big and will be posting it sometime this week if i remember.
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2013 | 06:23 AM
  #113  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
So i was in town and though i would try and find a tailgate bolt. FOund the bolt, sorta, at the hardware store. 10 x 1.25 x 35 i think they measured it at. But good old home depot, and before anyone says anything yes i bought a bolt for my truck at the hardware store it will be replaced i ever find a local jy with toyotas. gave a metric bolt with a standard head? WTH? Where is the sense in that. So i am looking for somewhere else to find the bolt, and the shim/sleeve thing.
Anyone know of an automotive store that operates in the southeast that stocks bolts and such?
Reply
Old Jul 17, 2013 | 06:45 AM
  #114  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Was reading terrys87's 86 build thread and figured out what that unidentified plug under my hood is, its for the windshield washer bottle.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...6/index40.html
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2013 | 12:10 PM
  #115  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Well i will be leaving my yota for a week. Hope i don't have separation anxiety.
When i get back classes and work will be taking off, so i will have less time but more money. So i might get up to some fun stuff.
Reply
Old Jul 19, 2013 | 12:49 PM
  #116  
bbrideau's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: Fernie, British Columbia, Canada
i hate leaving my yota behind. its like telling your dog that they cant come with you for a walk.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2013 | 06:14 AM
  #117  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Well i'm back in town for a while and i need to get cracking on this. I need a safe reliable vehicle before work kicks into overdrive. And i want to make this yota that vehicle, its reliable right now, but not really safe(that unrestrained back end walks like crazy).
To that end i may regretfully have to have a shop do some of the work for me as time is at a premium. I may be able to do most of it myself, but that depends on what i decide i want to do, i am tossing around a few ideas that i will be posting after a little more thinking.
Stay tuned i will probably be back on this evening and start the ball rolling.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2013 | 07:26 PM
  #118  
SpeedCrazy's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
From: SC Backwoods
Okay, these are my ideas, please be merciless in telling me what is and what is not a good idea:
#1:
Lower the truck from a 4" lift to a 2" lift and keep the 35"s. Would require new lift kit(just to make it easier to insure i had all the parts) and a trim job on the fenders and such. Should lower COG, wind resistance, and minimally increase mpg.

#2
Lower the truck and drop to 33"s. Would require a new lift kit(see above)
and new gears. Would lower COG, wind resistance, rolling weight, and minimally increase mpg.

#3
Keep the truck the current height and just add shocks and traction bars(need to add them whichever i choose to control the weight of those big tires).

I don't know what my current mpg is but i plan to experiment and figure it out asap. But regardless i want the best i can without drastic rebuilding(aka stock height, gears and tires). Reason being within the next year i will be having to make weekly trips of roughly 400 miles. Assuming 14mpg and $3.40/g thats $98 dollars of gas. For a student on a budget that will kill. Even a small increase will go along way. But of course the issue is finding the cost effective balance.
To that end i figure that i can get a small increase by lowering the truck, and then probably by:
Larger air intake?
Headers?
Tune up(plugs, wires, seafoam, check timing)
Driving habits.

Any other suggestions? Or comments on the whole thing.
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2013 | 04:20 AM
  #119  
bone collector's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,025
Likes: 40
From: Northen Indiana
Originally Posted by SpeedCrazy
Okay, these are my ideas, please be merciless in telling me what is and what is not a good idea:
#1:
Lower the truck from a 4" lift to a 2" lift and keep the 35"s. Would require new lift kit(just to make it easier to insure i had all the parts) and a trim job on the fenders and such. Should lower COG, wind resistance, and minimally increase mpg.

#2
Lower the truck and drop to 33"s. Would require a new lift kit(see above)
and new gears. Would lower COG, wind resistance, rolling weight, and minimally increase mpg.

#3
Keep the truck the current height and just add shocks and traction bars(need to add them whichever i choose to control the weight of those big tires).

I don't know what my current mpg is but i plan to experiment and figure it out asap. But regardless i want the best i can without drastic rebuilding(aka stock height, gears and tires). Reason being within the next year i will be having to make weekly trips of roughly 400 miles. Assuming 14mpg and $3.40/g thats $98 dollars of gas. For a student on a budget that will kill. Even a small increase will go along way. But of course the issue is finding the cost effective balance.
To that end i figure that i can get a small increase by lowering the truck, and then probably by:
Larger air intake?
Headers?
Tune up(plugs, wires, seafoam, check timing)
Driving habits.

Any other suggestions? Or comments on the whole thing.
I would choose option 1 or 2. Maybe even return the truck to stock height and run 33s. I have a few friends that are doing this and looks awesome and wheels great. Realize that you are going to need new knuckles etc when switching out lifts. I'm sure you could sell the lift and tires on craigslist without much trouble.

When it comes to gas mileage, don't forget to calculate for the difference in your tire size. The odometer still thinks you are running stock tires. Your gas mileage might be better than you think.

That being said.... what gears are you going to run? They need to match your tire size. I know there are people running 4.30 gears with 35 to get better gas mileage. The trade off is a slower take off... just stuff to think about. Good luck
Reply
Old Aug 6, 2013 | 07:03 AM
  #120  
bbrideau's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 590
Likes: 0
From: Fernie, British Columbia, Canada
option 1 or 2 for sure, leaning more towards option 2. the difference in mpg between 35's and 33's is more than you would think.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:00 AM.