Chefyota4x4's Ruby R3dRuM to "Suzy-Q the Silverback" Body Swap Thread!
#383
With further research I was able to clarify that there is no difference in the bodies of all 1st gen 4runners. With that said this means that the frame mounts are identical on IFS an SA 1st gens.
I compared both my 85 Runner and my 87 pickup and the front mounts all measure to be the same distance an height. Note my 87 is still IFS.
Sounds to me your frame is either bent downward in the front or your body is bent upward.
Try clamping a straight edge to your frame behind the front tires. Hopefully it's long enough to stick out the front. Measure the distance between straight edge and frame. Do same on other side. See what measurements you get compared to someone else
I compared both my 85 Runner and my 87 pickup and the front mounts all measure to be the same distance an height. Note my 87 is still IFS.
Sounds to me your frame is either bent downward in the front or your body is bent upward.
Try clamping a straight edge to your frame behind the front tires. Hopefully it's long enough to stick out the front. Measure the distance between straight edge and frame. Do same on other side. See what measurements you get compared to someone else
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With further research I was able to clarify that there is no difference in the bodies of all 1st gen 4runners. With that said this means that the frame mounts are identical on IFS an SA 1st gens.
I compared both my 85 Runner and my 87 pickup and the front mounts all measure to be the same distance an height. Note my 87 is still IFS.
Sounds to me your frame is either bent downward in the front or your body is bent upward.
Try clamping a straight edge to your frame behind the front tires. Hopefully it's long enough to stick out the front. Measure the distance between straight edge and frame. Do same on other side. See what measurements you get compared to someone else
I compared both my 85 Runner and my 87 pickup and the front mounts all measure to be the same distance an height. Note my 87 is still IFS.
Sounds to me your frame is either bent downward in the front or your body is bent upward.
Try clamping a straight edge to your frame behind the front tires. Hopefully it's long enough to stick out the front. Measure the distance between straight edge and frame. Do same on other side. See what measurements you get compared to someone else
#386
At 26" could you stuff some wood under it to level the frame. Could probably use a jack to level it one the suspension. Would get you close.use the datum sheet I posted and do the math on 26" per point. Really just concentrate one the front. Good luck
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Well, got the brand new V6 w/Detroit diff in the rear....

Local couple guys I have seen around here, yet never met in person, saw my request on Instagram for help and came over and spent hours just hanging out and talking truck and helping me hump this much heavier differential up in there. SO COOL OF THEM!
Pulled her out of the garage to prep for surgery! Lol.....

Got her up on stands.....

Yoinked the axles out....

Pulled the very recently done 4 cylinder differential with new / broken in G2 4.88's and premium install kit set up by Jay King at Yotamasters....

Pulled it with the Spartan in mid ratchet on purpose,.....

, and within a quarter inch turn of the pinion it popped right in.... ....

These are so quiet, the gears, and in mint broken in condition.... Going to sell with the Spartan, with the disclaimer that the spartan could be annoying... I would recommend just basically disassembling it reassembling it , which would allow to see if something is out of specs, because it was put together by a member on here a couple years ago, when I grabbed the 430 geared diff with this locker in it..... Honestly think what it is is that the springs are worn out in the Spartans, which makes it ratchet more often. As you can see from the pictures nothing is coming apart and there are no obvious signs of the pin being way out or something like that....



MINT! ....

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First, I realized I had hamburger D one of the two longer studs, the one on the bottom around 5:29 on the clock.... Solved!
Draining before swap(4) Hamburgered stud:
Also, I had to do a little bit of filing in order to get socket over the drain bolt.... Got it!
Draining before swap(1):
Draining before swap(2):
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I had to do quite a bit of grinding, meaning in four different spots(1:30, 4:30, 7:30 and 10:30) on the proverbial axle to differential meeting point clock! Haha, just to clear the outer bearing adjustment nuts...





Not the friendliest ABS PLUG! Pita, grrr LOL....

New Homie helping me that day, big_bad64 on IG.... And his cousin was there as well....

Hahaha, dude was freaking hilarious, and he cracked me up all day! Lol... I just finished grinding and he insisted to help lift the diff and have me mark stuff as I was grinding after two test fits ( he didn't want me to blow out my back )... VERY cool ppl!
Got it installed....
Draining before swap(5) Hamburgered Zerk:
Called it quits for the night, ....

Got out as soon as I could today and fill it up.....

And now I begin to break them in... ;-)

Local couple guys I have seen around here, yet never met in person, saw my request on Instagram for help and came over and spent hours just hanging out and talking truck and helping me hump this much heavier differential up in there. SO COOL OF THEM!
Pulled her out of the garage to prep for surgery! Lol.....

Got her up on stands.....

Yoinked the axles out....

Pulled the very recently done 4 cylinder differential with new / broken in G2 4.88's and premium install kit set up by Jay King at Yotamasters....

Pulled it with the Spartan in mid ratchet on purpose,.....

, and within a quarter inch turn of the pinion it popped right in.... ....

These are so quiet, the gears, and in mint broken in condition.... Going to sell with the Spartan, with the disclaimer that the spartan could be annoying... I would recommend just basically disassembling it reassembling it , which would allow to see if something is out of specs, because it was put together by a member on here a couple years ago, when I grabbed the 430 geared diff with this locker in it..... Honestly think what it is is that the springs are worn out in the Spartans, which makes it ratchet more often. As you can see from the pictures nothing is coming apart and there are no obvious signs of the pin being way out or something like that....



MINT! ....

******************************
First, I realized I had hamburger D one of the two longer studs, the one on the bottom around 5:29 on the clock.... Solved!
Draining before swap(4) Hamburgered stud:
Also, I had to do a little bit of filing in order to get socket over the drain bolt.... Got it!
Draining before swap(1):
Draining before swap(2):
*********************************
I had to do quite a bit of grinding, meaning in four different spots(1:30, 4:30, 7:30 and 10:30) on the proverbial axle to differential meeting point clock! Haha, just to clear the outer bearing adjustment nuts...





Not the friendliest ABS PLUG! Pita, grrr LOL....

New Homie helping me that day, big_bad64 on IG.... And his cousin was there as well....

Hahaha, dude was freaking hilarious, and he cracked me up all day! Lol... I just finished grinding and he insisted to help lift the diff and have me mark stuff as I was grinding after two test fits ( he didn't want me to blow out my back )... VERY cool ppl!
Got it installed....
Draining before swap(5) Hamburgered Zerk:
Called it quits for the night, ....

Got out as soon as I could today and fill it up.....

And now I begin to break them in... ;-)
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Thanks again for the two guys that came over on a moment's notice and the other two, Dat_yota and @3lb00gi3 of IG (Met @3lb00gi3 in person, he was on the Big Bear trip last time, where Garrett rolled the Jeep)..... Really appreciate you guys offering to help!
Draining before swap(6):
Draining before swap(6):
#390
Sound like some cool guys, nice of them to pitch in and help you out, I bet your back was happy the next day, lol! nice work on the diff swap, look forward to hearing how you like it after putting some miles on it! Wish I had the coin, I'd buy your old setup, I'd like to go to 4.88's someday if I ever step up to 37"s...
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Sound like some cool guys, nice of them to pitch in and help you out, I bet your back was happy the next day, lol! nice work on the diff swap, look forward to hearing how you like it after putting some miles on it! Wish I had the coin, I'd buy your old setup, I'd like to go to 4.88's someday if I ever step up to 37"s...
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Weird thing I remember; all the 1st gens have 2 longer bolts.... Thought they went in the front. Anyway, curious why, but think they're in the rear, cuz of body thickness... Maybe it was for the front though? The kit seems to have 2 taller bushings, but maybe it's an optical illusion, hehe.
Still have to clear the rod links, heims and arms with some more cutting on the tunnel.....
Also, in the leftovers of body mount stuff, looks like i have 8 less tall bushings not being used. Maybe they need to go in the back 8...
Measurements first, but i also need the bushings out to take a closer look.
#394
I am totally clueless when it comes to gears. I was wondering when you had to do the front end repair due to something being bent if like what Toyota Boy mentioned as well.
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Not sure just yet what to ask.... And 3 people locally are interested, so I'll letcha know if the "local pick up" falls through.
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Stopped by Yotamasters trying to put some miles on the new diff, and cuz the pinion seal must have been damaged during install(Eric said to just come out and they'd slap a new marlin eco-seal)....


Also had the new larger diameter fill plug Journal trail-gear rear armor slapped on....


Thoroughly cleaned up the axle and new v6 differential......

Then, went all hammered black with it all! Lol


NOW, onto the tunnel mod/fabbing, to clear things after removing the body lift!.....PRAY ON THIS! Lol


Also had the new larger diameter fill plug Journal trail-gear rear armor slapped on....


Thoroughly cleaned up the axle and new v6 differential......

Then, went all hammered black with it all! Lol


NOW, onto the tunnel mod/fabbing, to clear things after removing the body lift!.....PRAY ON THIS! Lol
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