BlazeN8's 1986 4Runner Build-Up Thread
10-24-2010, 10:31 AM
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Back to the build...... Like I mentioned earlyer the Bracket kit came off a wrecked T-100 so some parts were bent. The spindle spacer on one side was not salvagable so it had to be replaced. The other brackets were salvagable with some manipulation in the vice. I must not have gotten things completely straightened because the alignment barley got a green light. Take a look at the spec print out. Its under spec but the cams are maxed out in three of the four adjustment points. I drove it all week on the street and it tracked straight and drove nice. If the drop bracket kit wasn't damaged in the accident I think the alignment would have come out much better.
10-25-2010, 08:21 AM
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The past weekend it was raining so I took of the bald 35's and put on a spare set of 33's so as to be safe on the road.
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10-25-2010, 07:31 PM
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Took the 4 Runner to the local canyon and got into some dirt. Missing the front diff, driveshaft, and CVs so I was handicapped on where I could go. Non-the-less it was fun and worked well in pre-runner mode. I found a section to get the suspension to flex. Got the front fully drooped and compressed but the rear wouldn't come down on the bumpstops. The shocks might be about an inch too long? Need to further investigate.
10-26-2010, 01:20 PM
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Took the 4 Runner to the local canyon and got into some dirt. Missing the front diff, driveshaft, and CVs so I was handicapped on where I could go. Non-the-less it was fun and worked well in pre-runner mode. I found a section to get the suspension to flex. Got the front fully drooped and compressed but the rear wouldn't come down on the bumpstops. The shocks might be about an inch too long? Need to further investigate.
10-26-2010, 07:31 PM
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I am running a "coil-over assist" in this set up. I am using a stock torsion bar with almost no pre-load. The coil over shock also has a very light pre-load to a 250lb coil spring. If you had a 100% coil over conversion you would want about 600lb coil springs; but with a much greater pre-load. Also a 100% coil over conversion requires much more re-inforcing on the shock hoops. It is best to cage the engine compartment or at least incorporate a strut brace of some sort.
The coil over assist allows a lighter, less engineered shock hoop. It allows the loads of the suspension to be divided between two systems. Another advantage is there is a dual spring rate and multimple adjustment points. Think of it this way, neither the torsion bar assemby or the coil over assembly is working very hard, and a such neither is in overload.
The coil over assist allows a lighter, less engineered shock hoop. It allows the loads of the suspension to be divided between two systems. Another advantage is there is a dual spring rate and multimple adjustment points. Think of it this way, neither the torsion bar assemby or the coil over assembly is working very hard, and a such neither is in overload.
10-27-2010, 04:33 AM
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I am running a "coil-over assist" in this set up. I am using a stock torsion bar with almost no pre-load. The coil over shock also has a very light pre-load to a 250lb coil spring. If you had a 100% coil over conversion you would want about 600lb coil springs; but with a much greater pre-load. Also a 100% coil over conversion requires much more re-enforcing on the shock hoops. It is best to cage the engine compartment or at least incorporate a strut brace of some sort.
The coil over assist allows a lighter, less engineered shock hoop. It allows the loads of the suspension to be divided between two systems. Another advantage is there is a dual spring rate and multiple adjustment points. Think of it this way, neither the torsion bar assembly or the coil over assembly is working very hard, and a such neither is in overload.
I am working on a similar set up my self. I was able to squeeze a coil over in the stock location. i used one 16 inch 200 # ebach spring with my sway away torsion bars set with a very light pre load. Also my shock is out by the tire so they might have some more mechanical advantage. They are at an angel so some of the mechanical advantage will be lost. My coil over are a Kyb conversion but I picked them up for free and i have a ton of 2.5 springs from my inability to get the spring rate right in the first 10 tries .
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10-27-2010, 04:54 AM
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I am working on a similar set up my self. I was able to squeeze a coil over in the stock location. i used one 16 inch 200 # ebach spring with my sway away torsion bars set with a very light pre load. Also my shock is out by the tire so they might have some more mechanical advantage. They are at an angel so some of the mechanical advantage will be lost. My coil over are a Kyb conversion but I picked them up for free and i have a ton of 2.5 springs from my inability to get the spring rate right in the first 10 tries .
10-29-2010, 07:28 PM
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I have some excess coil springs in my inventory also! Trail and error is the price we pay for perfection. Speaking of which I have a few sets of rim and tire combinations now too! I installed some 315/75/16 BFG Muds on a set of Steel Rock Crawler wheels. The wheels are 16x8 with a 4.250" Backspace. I think the proportions are just right. Nothing rubs throughout the entire range, even the stock mud flaps work! The 8" width and deep backspace really keep the track width managable. The rear has 3" wheel adaptors. Still can't believe this is a 35" tire!
10-31-2010, 08:14 AM
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10-31-2010, 08:19 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imHyOfxlauQ
this is what can be accomplished using longer a arms and factory toyota hardware. ex.balljoints tire rod ends lengthend stock cv axle diff moved to the center.This is very simmiler to blazeland but more modified with a lot of time put into tweeking for more travel.
this is what can be accomplished using longer a arms and factory toyota hardware. ex.balljoints tire rod ends lengthend stock cv axle diff moved to the center.This is very simmiler to blazeland but more modified with a lot of time put into tweeking for more travel.
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10-31-2010, 08:31 AM
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10-31-2010, 09:20 AM
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thanks for the videos ccravoitto. I was good to finally see the blaze land kit do its thing.
looks like you are dreaming of a locker to help that LT do its thing.
looks like you are dreaming of a locker to help that LT do its thing.
10-31-2010, 06:42 PM
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ccrav- I don't want to over-hijack this, but is there any chance of you posting a thread and showing your entire front end build? You have some amazing flex!
Obviously, if there are components that you are prepping for market, then disregard, but otherwise I am very interested, and I am sure others would be as well.
MC
Obviously, if there are components that you are prepping for market, then disregard, but otherwise I am very interested, and I am sure others would be as well.
MC
11-01-2010, 08:35 AM
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You welcome. Thank you nate for opening my eyes to a new world in toyota stuff. If it wasent for your great starter kit I probally would have never relized how much fun IFS can be.In my opinion for a all around driver wheeler its the best kit on the market. I put on many of miles with no problems. Thats fun?
11-01-2010, 09:36 AM
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ccrav- I don't want to over-hijack this, but is there any chance of you posting a thread and showing your entire front end build? You have some amazing flex!
Obviously, if there are components that you are prepping for market, then disregard, but otherwise I am very interested, and I am sure others would be as well.
MC
Obviously, if there are components that you are prepping for market, then disregard, but otherwise I am very interested, and I am sure others would be as well.
MC
11-01-2010, 10:44 AM
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https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f122...osting-220205/
