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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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Lift chart?

All I need is a link to a chart showing what lift on what Toyotas will allow what size tire. I've been through 15 pages of the sticky and there are so many "opinions" in there that I can't find a straight answer.

Just a link to a chart so I'll know what size tires I can fit before I order them.

Thank you in advance for any help.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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Are you seriously asking this question after having several thousand posts on YT? Just about every week someone asks this question, which is why theres a sticky. yes, there are many variables but if you read the 15 pages of the "what tire fits" sticky then you should have no problem determining that in general:

0-2" of lift can fit up to a 33x10.5" tire without rubbing. A 12.5" wide tire will most likely rub without proper wheels, wheel backspacing, wheel spacers, firewall bashing or tubbing, body lifting, and/or even fender trimming depending on the tire chosen and how invasive you want to get with your wheel wells. It's not really the height of the tire, but it's the added width that comes with larger tires, which will most likely rub on the UCA, fender lip, pinch weld/firewall, frame rails, or wheel well, etc.

4" lift can run 33x10.5, 33x12.5 or sometimes 35" tire. If you ever plan on stuffing those tires, you'll most likely need some of the above modifications to keep them from hitting every time, especially those 35s.

Larger than 35"(35-37") tires will need lots of lift to clear them which is where we see bracket lifts combined with big body lifts - most likely these trucks are street queens because they're ^so tall. SAS would be a wise decision just for strength to handle those tires since IFS won't like the big tires for very long if at all.

Larger than a 37" tire will not only require a SAS, but also might require axles stronger than mini truck axles unless you've gone all out and beefed up EVERYTHING on those Toyota axles. Firewall tubbing and fender trimming might be inevitable at this stage as well.

Hope that helps. Sorry if it sounded like a repeat answer to a repeat question but that's what it is. As always use the SEARCH function, it still works last time I checked.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 09:58 AM
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official IFS what tire size will fit thread, don't go by others lift graphs, they are all trying to sell their lift. Procomp I think says we need a 4" lift to clear 33's and that's inaccurate.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by highonpottery
Are you seriously asking this question after having several thousand posts on YT?
Yes. I can't afford to buy tires and wheels then have them sit in the garage while I save money for more lift. Money is really tight and I need to do this right the first time.

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proper wheels, wheel backspacing, wheel spacers, firewall bashing or tubbing, body lifting, and/or even fender trimming depending on the tire chosen and how invasive you want to get with your wheel wells. It's not really the height of the tire, but it's the added width that comes with larger tires, which will most likely rub on the UCA, fender lip, pinch weld/firewall, frame rails, or wheel well, etc.
And that is where it all gets messed up in my head. The backspacing just confuses me although I understand the concept. I've read where folks will rub a certain sized tire with stock rims but not with a rim with more (or less) backspacing, sometime the UCA rubs on one rig but not on another of the same year and same lift etc.


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Hope that helps. Sorry if it sounded like a repeat answer to a repeat question but that's what it is. As always use the SEARCH function, it still works last time I checked.
No worries man. Trust me in that it was really embarrassing to type out that post. Yes I used the Search function.... it must made me more mixed up. I have a hard time with numbers and sometimes the littlest thing will throw me off. Try not to laugh to hard.

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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Mods Please Delete.

Originally Posted by xxxtreme22r
official IFS what tire size will fit thread, don't go by others lift graphs, they are all trying to sell their lift.
That's the one I read through

Jeez it was so much easier just to lift the rig, throw in some gears and lockers and install the 31's. It took less time to do all those things than I spent looking up the proper procedures and parts......

Heck I'll just pull the trigger on the wheels and tires and pray they fit.


Mods feel free to delete this so it doesn't get any more embarrassing for me.

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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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Honestly Ricky, go with a 10.5" wide tire on stock sized rims.
With a 10.5" wide tire you can run stock rims and not have to worry about UCA rub.
Most of the rubbing issues you see are because of wide tires (11.5+) and having to, or wanting to, run less backspaced rims.

When you go with a 3.5" backspacing compared to stock 4.5" it will push the tire out further from the knuckle. But in return you end up rubbing a lot on the inner fender wells due to the geometry of pushing the tire out (can't explain it, but it'll make sense if you think about it).

I could fit 33x10.5's stock on my tacoma with only a little bit of inner fender well pinchweld beating. If I could do that, so could you.

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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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You will NEVER live this thread down.

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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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well.. i was gonna delete... but scuba has some good points in his post... SOME GUD TEK RIGHT THUR!
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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GD nooob.


C'mon man, you didn't like my answer from earlier??? Boooo....
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 09:14 AM
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Thanks for all the help (and joking) folks. Tires have been ordered, rims to follow, and no I'm not posting pictures when they get mounted.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Junkers88
and no I'm not posting pictures when they get mounted.
I can deal with the noob question but it's a for that.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by xxxtreme22r
I can deal with the noob question but it's a for that.
Ok maybe one picture just so I don't get kicked off the forums.

I'll do a wash and wax on the rig and take a picture of it in front of the local mall.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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