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Old Oct 2, 2013 | 10:57 AM
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1st gen 4runner 3vze OM616 swap

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after trying really hard to get my 3vze running properly, it started to spit water and work on 4cyl or less when cold so i knew that the swap time came.
I know that OM617 is popular because of its power but since i really dont need so much hp, i will be satisfied with the OM616 i recently bought. Can you give me some advices what to check or change beside belts before i start to put it in. It has 240k km on it, comp is within norm, i was thinking only valve check, water pump replace and belt change.
I will be using Merc starter, ps pump an alternator i hope to keep on the stock position since i wont be using my ac compressor. I have a340h automatic transmission and i am not sure how it will work with this small diesel but i hope for the best.
Thank you in advance for any advices regarding my project. Once again, i know that 617 is better option but 616 is what i have got to work with

This is my 4runner in its working environment, i mostly use it for towing bikes and moving ramps and whatnot.



pics soon

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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Interesting going with the OM616, I'll be interested to see how it goes. Yeah as you say power will be low (74hp I think), but then again those old W123 chassis are just about as heavy as your 4runner currently. Another nice thing about the 616 is that you should have plenty of room in front for the stock fan and not have to move the radiator at all. All that aside, I've heard OM617 turbos going for as little as $300 at scrap yards...
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Old Nov 12, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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hi everyone
just wanted to share few pictures with you, today ive stripped my 3vze and took it out along with tranny. here are few pics of the last moments of 3vze under the hood. byebye 3vze, you sputtering bastard














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Old Nov 21, 2013 | 11:11 AM
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little update on my swap.

first we've put om616 on the motorcycle lift, leveled it and started to prepare the adapter plate and all other things









as you can see, unlike on the om617, on om616 oil filter housing gets in the way for the adapter plate so i had to remove it, will get to it later

here is the distance plate for the flywheel



thanks to dmarsh4x4 for this tricky one haha









it will be easy to get the holes out of that one

and the last one for today with plate leveled up with the tranny, ive also made some punchmark tools and got the holes marked for tomorrows drilling etc.



i really get a lot of help from this forum and also from my friend teo4runner who recently finished his om617 swap in 2nd gen 4runner, thank you guys.
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Old Nov 24, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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a bit of progress











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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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today the engine went in for the first time























thats it for today, tomorrow i hope to solve thje oil pan clearance and also oil pump intake needs to be angeled a little bit
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 10:58 AM
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bit more from today, engine mounts and oil filter distance with gaskets are done







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Old Nov 28, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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more from today

finished relocating the oil intake and the oil pan but sadly didnt take a photo of finished oil pan because i wanted to try if it fits asap i had to remove the steering suspension, maybe i will put it back later on other position









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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 10:33 AM
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oil filter housing along with toy pressure sensor and adapter mounted


3vze EFI wiring mess cleaned
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 08:16 AM
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it is alive started from third, bleeding wasnt so hard as i have red. here is crap quality video of the first time my om616 came to life. it was struggling with ther rest of air but after some time got calm.

http://youtu.be/GwEQWx4atEM
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Old Jan 13, 2014 | 08:32 AM
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just realized there is no sound, ill take another one tmrw with some better camera :/
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 02:56 AM
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finished mounting OM616 radiator, i had to remove fan so i guess ill be using something small electrical in the front. any of you have advice on choosing fan switch, auto (temp switch) or manual? i think ill use manual switch to avoid auto temp switch failure and problems with high temp.
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 08:50 AM
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I use the manual switch it works good you just have to remember to turn it on When you're going under 35
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 08:58 AM
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I was wondering how your automatic transmission is going to work without the ECU telling it what to do. I'm sure you already thought of this but I figured I'd ask Because I'm kinda curious. Nice work man
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Old Jan 16, 2014 | 12:11 PM
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first i will wire up switches to solenoids but i hope to get plc soon.
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 06:13 AM
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went really productive today, got to wire up my temporary manual automatic transmission



the beta version of throttle cable holder



hooked cooling lines from the scrap pile of leftover tubes from 3vze and othera various mopeds/motorbikes





also i did short test ride an i am very happy with my swap, torque converter revs it a bit higher on the uphill but it is ok

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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 06:51 AM
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one more
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Old Jan 18, 2014 | 01:37 PM
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Nice job. Really like the buildings you drove by. BEAUTIFUL!
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Old Jan 19, 2014 | 01:37 AM
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thanks.
the location is island Rab, Croatia, EU
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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 07:32 AM
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looks like my swap just went to "total tear down bodywork", guys who painted it before were really "tidy" which led to whole bunch of rusted areas

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