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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 05:52 PM
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5VZ Supercharger Bypass Valve Adjustment

I'm getting close to getting my S/C 3.4 swap going and I noticed that the bypass valve on the S/C doesn't seem to be adjusted right. The valve when at rest doesn't touch the stop screw. It was purchased second hand so I have no "brand-new" reference. I would assume that the stop linkage should touch the stop screw at some point?

Here is a picture of the valve as it sits with engine off. This is the way it was delivered to me when purchased. Does anyone have a pict of theirs for comparison?

It looks like I could loosen the two bracket bolts and slide the entire valve in to "tighten" up the valve.

Any ideas?
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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get it running first, and see what it does under vacum. I'll check mine later.
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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get it running first, and see what it does under vacum. I'll check mine later.
Ok, so I shouldn't worry about the possible misadjustment causing any problems on first start up? I guess the worst this that can happen is no or low boost correct?
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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mine still looks brand spankin' new, I will try and remember to take a photo of mine when I get home tonight. I know TRD makes a big point of telling us not to mess with that as it is 'pre-set' from the factory but being secondhand, who knows? I don't think you would cause any damage if you started it and see what it does. What are you using for fuel/timing control if any?
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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mine still looks brand spankin' new, I will try and remember to take a photo of mine when I get home tonight. I know TRD makes a big point of telling us not to mess with that as it is 'pre-set' from the factory but being secondhand, who knows? I don't think you would cause any damage if you started it and see what it does. What are you using for fuel/timing control if any?
Thanks I would appreciate that pict. If it wasn't pre-owned I would feel better, but it really doesn't look right that the lever never touches down on the adjustment screw. I have also read on Gadgets site that he has seen more than a few misadjusted from the factory.

I am using the URD FTC1 w/7th injector through the EGR port for additional fueling.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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you paid a grand for that thing? Is it really worth it? I want to s/c mine, but it just makes me sick how expensive that mod is.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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I feel Ya.

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you paid a grand for that thing? Is it really worth it? I want to s/c mine, but it just makes me sick how expensive that mod is.
If your referencing the URD kit then yes. I felt the same way as well about the money, but apparently the S/C works so much better with it if installed and tuned properly. Especially so on the early year 5VZ's like mine that didn't have the wideband O2 sensor up front.

Plus, the reason I went with the URD kit is two-fold. First it is designed specifically for the motor with the S/C and comes with a startup fuel/timing map, and Secondly Gadgets customer service is apparently fantastic and I can vouch for that second one so far. He was nice enough to ship the kit in pieces to me to keep my project rolling along while I waited for the control unit itself, at no addition cost.

I'll let you know how it comes out. It should be on the dyno within the next few weeks if my header bolts ever show up.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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at hight idle at cold start.



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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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Thanks

You rock Vital, thanks for coming through with those!

It looks like mine is adjusted in the same fashion as yours in relation to the two allen head bolts that hold the valve to the S/C housing and the relative position of the adjusting screw, etc. But for some reason when mine returns to "rest" position, the tongue on the lever that is suppossed to touch down on the stop screw is a good 1/4" away. If I try to gently push the lever towards the set screw to make it touch down it will not budge. I can only conclude that the actual valve itself internally is getting hung up and not allowing for complete closure.

I don't know what this might do to runability, but I guess I am going to find out.

Thanks again.
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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spray the adjuster with wd40, things are pretty rusty looking. Does the sc spin freely? Maybe something is caught in the valve?

Also mine looks like the valve with braket is clocked a little more clockwise than yours. Compare the gaps of the two upper mounting bolts.

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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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The adjuster can move freely if I want it to with the allen stop screw. I did a oil change on it on the bench before putting it on. The nose bearings were all good and the main rotor bearing felt fine as well, so I didn't go any deeper. There is a little surface rust, but it is all superficial as far as I can tell.

What sucks is I think the only way to inspect/clean/replace the valve is to pull it back off and pull the whole thing apart.

The story I was told about the supercharger is that it was pulled off a truck at 70k because of lease and was being turned back in. Then it was purchased by the fellow I bought if from where it sat for 3-4 years unused and then sold to me. It was stored in the original box in the plastic with every part on the parts list except the decals, emblems etc.

From the attention to detail of the person who packed it up leads me to believe that they genuinely had every intention of using it, or having it used again.
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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a little late but here's mine for an additional reference;

off, cold start idle

went camping this weekend in the runner, can't wait to get a 3.4 in it w/ a SC.... 3vz did the job with a fully loaded runner but ya know....
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 06:12 PM
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here's some better photos, a bit clearer than the first set...
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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Thanks aa1911, the more the merrier!
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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Seems to be working despite the misadjustment. Once I had the motor running is seems to perform similarly to everyones pictures.

I have just one last question for anyone that might know. I have to run without a boost gauge for a week or so till my gauges show up. Is there a possibility of this valve being misadjusted creating an overboost situation? It is my understanding that the S/C with the stock pulley will only make whatever the standard boost is, unless the pulley is changed to a smaller one to spin it faster therefore creating more boost.

I just don't want to overboost the motor in the interum that I am waiting for a gauge. If this is even possible?
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