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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:35 AM
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1st Winter Impression: BFG AT TA's

I'm using the BFG AT TA's, brand-spanking new in the 265/75R16 flavor. We just had our first snow fall of the year which I've really been looking forward to because of the tires.

Anyhow, here is my preliminary review/opinion of them. I find they are exceptionally good for dry/highway/dry off-road/light mud. I also feel very confident with them, as in they seem like a tire that will not fall apart on you. I like that peace of mind it gives me, especially when I'm in the passenger seat and my girlfriend is driving lol.

They do not seem to be much more than 'just above average' in wet and light snow/ice conditions however. Give it a bit of gas and the rear slips out with ease. I'm referring to 2WD of course because in 4WD, everything seems like it has traction. In wet and light snow/ice conditions, my old, worn-down BF Goodrich Dueler AT's ran just as well. Have yet to find deep snow & test, but I'm sure I will soon.

I'm not complaining, I'm just giving my humble opinion for now. It may change as the winter season goes on...

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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My findings in deep (>6") snow:

dry or packable snow - great traction

wet snow - crap

Just my 2¢
Old Dec 20, 2002 | 09:43 AM
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More on this topic.

This has been one of the worst winters ever. There's still no snow out there & it's almost Christmas!!! I'm going to have to buy a can of fake snow to put on the windows to get us in the Christmas spririt *sigh*.

Anyhow, on to the BFG's. I'm actually looking forward to these BFG AT's wearing down so I can purchase Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo's.

I must be honest, and remain objective, in my review of the BFG AT's. I'm not impressed yet/still. The only thing I've found them particularly good at so far, is dry pavement and light dirt. Not to mention picking up rocks along the way to spit them at the bottom of the Runner. They are no better than any other tire in wet/slick or light-ice conditions. They do seem durable & tough w/the strong sidewalls though. Don't get me entirely wrong, they are not a bad tire by any means. But I just don't think they are worth the money I paid for them...yet.

More on these tires as I use them..

Al
Old Dec 21, 2002 | 07:25 AM
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wet snow - crap
Everything sucks in wet snow though.. I think I'll be waiting a LONG time to test out my BFGs in the snow. We don't seem to get much of that here in the UK.... Now if all the rain turned to snow.. Good god it'd be a winter wonderland!*!**!
Old Jan 3, 2003 | 04:23 AM
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed that my REVOs will arrive within the next 2 weeks. Compared to the stock BS H/T 689's, only slicks could be worse.:cry:

The reviews for the REVO's on Tirerack are very impressive...
Old Jan 3, 2003 | 07:24 AM
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I agree. I'm thinking about going w/the REVO's when the BFG's get worn down. The BFG's have been great offroad though, I must admit.
Old Jan 8, 2003 | 07:40 AM
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Im definately going to get the Goodyear MT/R's. They have been highly raved about by everyone.
Old Jan 10, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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I also have bfg at ko 265/75 r16's. I was able to drive in some wet snow over 1 foot deep. I thought the tires worked great. This is with 4x4 and center diff locked. I was able to drive and maintain "control" above 35 mph. I probably will go with bfg at's again except in 285's.
Old Jan 11, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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As I stated in previous posts, I will be going with the Toyo Open Country A/t's very soon. I have driven them in the snow with my buddy's Tundra and I am very impressed with them.

The stock BFG Rugged Terrian's totally suck in snow, sand, mud, wet pavement, and they are not even that great on dry pavement. I had to vent about them in another post in the main forum.
Old Jan 16, 2003 | 07:32 AM
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2nd, 3rd & final lasting impression

I don't like 'em. I'm sorry to all you BFG AT KO lovers out there, but I tried my hardest to like these tires, really I did. The only thing I like about them is the fact that I feel safe offroading in them and driving long trips with them.

Last night after my haircut I proceeded south on 184 st. It's a paved 2-lane, 2-way traffic, no street light kind of back road. Anyway, I was in 2WD and accelerating at a very moderate pace when all of a sudden the rear kicks out to the right at around 35 MPH. This pushes the front to the oncoming traffic lane and after 2 fishtails and recovery steers I was back on track. It was scary. If there was a car coming, I would have hit it for sure & might not be here to write this today.

This is not the first time the rear has kicked out under moderate acceleration, it's just the first time it's been reeally concerning. I don't like it. My warn down Bridgestone Dueler AT's never did that.

Anyway, here is my final review on the BFG AT's:

-Dry traction: just like any other tire with rubber on it
-Snow traction: average to good
-Light snow / icy traction: poor
-Slush: poor
-Slick / wet traction: poor
-Dirt traction: average
-Dirt + snow + steep hill traction: average
-Tire flex on trails: excellent
-Sidewall strength/construction: excellent
-Fuel economy: poor
-Road Noise: average
-Tiny rocks forever caught in the aggressive tread: Hugely Annoying

I'm not sure what other categories to rate these tires in, but if I missed anything important let me know and I'll add my 2 bits about it.
Old Jan 16, 2003 | 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by dlotoy4runner
Im definately going to get the Goodyear MT/R's. They have been highly raved about by everyone.

In the mud they aren't that great at all.
Old Feb 5, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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Ive had 4 cases of snow this winter and in va thats alot. All cases were around 4-8in and i aired down to 25psi and they worked great for me. I rarley slipped.
Old Feb 7, 2003 | 07:35 AM
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We got a little bit of snow here in Denver over the past couple days. The other night, I had to REALLY TRY to break the rear tires free to do donuts.
I did a E-brake u-turn with no problem in my Escort. In fact, I ended up in my neighbors yard by accident.
Old Feb 7, 2003 | 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by HaveBlue
We got a little bit of snow here in Denver over the past couple days. The other night, I had to REALLY TRY to break the rear tires free to do donuts.
I did a E-brake u-turn with no problem in my Escort. In fact, I ended up in my neighbors yard by accident.
You didn't mention, but are you using the BFG AT's?

Mine are around 32 psi. right now. I think I'll air them down to 28 or so and see what happens.

Al
Old Feb 7, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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Oh, yeah. Sorry.
My 4Runner is clad with BFG 265/75/16s. I usually run between 35-40 psi.

My Escort is clad with BFG passenger tires. I don't remember the model though.
Old Feb 7, 2003 | 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by HaveBlue
Oh, yeah. Sorry.
My 4Runner is clad with BFG 265/75/16s. I usually run between 35-40 psi.

My Escort is clad with BFG passenger tires. I don't remember the model though.
Supercharged and it's hard to break free the rear tires? I'm not sure what to say now. I certainly don't have the torque you do, but it's easy to do donuts in my Runner w/the BFG's. Anytime, anyplace, just hit the gas w/o even flooring it and I can get some great U-turns going.

I'll try airing down, but I'm really surprised with these scenarios of our's.

Al
 
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