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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 10:12 AM
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87 4runner SAS weekend project

i have owned 2 toyota trucks, 86 pickup ifs. and 95 ifs. both ran 39.5 TSL's. i never had any room for travel.. so i just put this sas on my daily driver.. pretty straight forward.. ill post pics and such as i get them put on my computer.. making front drive shaft now.
want to run some big tires.. not sure of the size yet.
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 11:33 AM
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some before pics

here are a few before pics and the axle when i got it.(its from a 1985 of course) cutting all the brackets off and cleaning it up for the truss and high steer.
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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couple more of the axle build

just a few more pics.
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Old Oct 1, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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axle pics

axle build pics. trussed up and high steer added, and i put 87 4runner calipers and rotors on. those 85's warp too bad.
5" skyjacker softrides front and rear.
all other stuff for sas is trail gear.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 05:05 AM
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cut everything off, tacked everything on, measuring and measuring again..
shock mounts trimmed and ready to go on. shocks to follow..
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 05:08 AM
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Cool, looks like your making great progress
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 05:52 AM
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thanks, had some computer problems but got them fixed. here are some of the last pictures. i have tons of pics, but just tried to choose the most descriptive one...rides like a champ, needs tires bad.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 06:11 AM
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all finished now.. but only one thing whipped my butt... everything was pretty easy and straight forward, and just when you think you are done.. no brakes! replaced everything from the master cylinder to ALL THE BRAKE COMPONENTS...i would never in a million years guessed what was causing the pedal to build up.. then after a few seconds.. to the floor.. i used two professional bleeding systems, one that pumps from the brakes to the reservoir, and one that pumps from reservoir to the brakes,. i was getting plenty of fluid at the bleeders, no air.. but no brakes.. finally figured out it was the front.. note to self..(and to anyone else who does this)
step 1. remove front calipers.
step 2. press brake petal until all 4 pistons have pretty much came out their full stroke
step 3. break open bleed valve, and depress the pads back to push the pistons back so they will fit around rotor.
step 4. reinstall calipers and they will now work.
i am sure someone will think that that is what they would have done first.. but EVERYTHING was new. and i didnt expect this to be an issue. obviously, the reservoir behind the pistons has to be big enough to build up pressure or it bypasses to the bleed screw.
LESSON LEARNED.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 08:10 AM
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Are your bleeder valves on the top of or the bottom of the calipers? Hard to tell from the pictures.

Whats with the mini blocks under the leafs? You only need one on the drivers side to level things out. ( Edit, ment drivers side. )

Otherwise, Looks great! What size tire are you planning on running?

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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 08:12 AM
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cut out ifs.. auto locking hubs. gotta get rid of this thing..
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 10:05 AM
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Are your bleeder valves on the top of or the bottom of the calipers? Hard to tell from the pictures.

Whats with the mini blocks under the leafs? You only need one on the pass side to level things out.

Otherwise, Looks great! What size tire are you planning on running?
they were on the bottom of the calipers..

i only added the one on the driver side.. passenger side had one already.
thanks man.. i plan on a 39.5 but those things are expensive!
might have to run the old tiny tims for a while. my brother has a couple of land cruisers and one has a nice set of 32 tsl's. i might run them till i can afford some meats.
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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they were on the bottom of the calipers.. i only added the one on the driver side.. passenger side had one already. thanks man.. i plan on a 39.5 but those things are expensive! might have to run the old tiny tims for a while. my brother has a couple of land cruisers and one has a nice set of 32 tsl's. i might run them till i can afford some meats.
Bleeder valves go on top. Are you saying one side had two bleeder valves?
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:00 AM
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they were on the bottom of the calipers..

i only added the one on the driver side.. passenger side had one already.
thanks man.. i plan on a 39.5 but those things are expensive!
might have to run the old tiny tims for a while. my brother has a couple of land cruisers and one has a nice set of 32 tsl's. i might run them till i can afford some meats.

just realized what you meant about the small spring pads, some spring manufacturers dont sell left and right springs, so you have to put a 3/8 pad on the drivers side to level them out. if they were factory springs, you are right, only the passenger side gets it..
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Bleeder valves go on top. Are you saying one side had two bleeder valves?

just caught onto that when you said top or bottom..OOPS.. swapping them out now.. haha. easy to do when you got 3 people working on 3 different parts of the truck lol.
that makes mucho sense to have the valve on top.. where the air would be.:great
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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by coadyboys
they were on the bottom of the calipers..

i only added the one on the driver side.. passenger side had one already.
thanks man.. i plan on a 39.5 but those things are expensive!
might have to run the old tiny tims for a while. my brother has a couple of land cruisers and one has a nice set of 32 tsl's. i might run them till i can afford some meats.
Tires are expensive. Haha. Going to run the stock gears?

If I read that right, you have the calipers on the wrong side, thats why you were having such a hard time bleeding them. The bleeder valves go on top, air goes up.

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just realized what you meant about the small spring pads, some spring manufacturers dont sell left and right springs, so you have to put a 3/8 pad on the drivers side to level them out. if they were factory springs, you are right, only the passenger side gets it..
Close... the drive side is the low one (your right there). So you only need 1 pad, under the drivers side to level them out. Looks like you have 2 on the drivers side and one on the passenger... If they were factory spring, neither side you get the pad because drivers side spring would be 3/8 taller.

For the superlift springs, you should have 1 pad under the drivers side, and thats it.

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Old Oct 2, 2014 | 04:57 PM
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Tires are expensive. Haha. Going to run the stock gears?

If I read that right, you have the calipers on the wrong side, thats why you were having such a hard time bleeding them. The bleeder valves go on top, air goes up.



Close... the drive side is the low one (your right there). So you only need 1 pad, under the drivers side to level them out. Looks like you have 2 on the drivers side and one on the passenger... If they were factory spring, neither side you get the pad because drivers side spring would be 3/8 taller.

For the superlift springs, you should have 1 pad under the drivers side, and thats it.
Yes you are correct... Had the calipers swapped, but if you do that lol, I know my four steps will bleed them fine lol
As for the spring perch pads, since there was one on the passenger side.. I had to add one to the drivers side. Drivers side was dramatically lower. My springs were soft ride 5" and they were the same. Leveled up nice. Almost done with the double u joint driveshaft. I don't do hard wheeling so it should be fine. Only hunting and driving to workl lol
Thanks for the info and comments
I'll add more pics when I add tires.
Got the fiberglass rear fender flares to add also. I'm no body man. I'm a gunsmith so any advice on how and what to do would be appreciated. You can see my rear fender rust from the awesome chrome trim aka rust maker
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how much lift did you get out of the swap.. it looks great
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 03:45 AM
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how much lift..

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how much lift did you get out of the swap.. it looks great
thanks,

not sure exactly, i never measured any before the lift..i think 39.5's would fit, but still need some mods to flex decent. but i got a hell of a lot more up front than the rear,and they were both softride 5" lift springs. i had to do a longer shackle in the rear to level it out. still dont have tires. . but it would look a lot better with tires. i just made up my drive shaft for the front the other week. works great. i just clearanced the CV like most have done. i am glad i went with the soft ride springs though, it rides really firm to the steering wheel, but soft on the bumps. although i love the truck, i think im going to sell it. looks like i need rear pinion bearings now.. got a roar starting in the rear. no biggie. ill slap it out tomorrow.. working on thanksgiving is awesome....lol
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The roar in the rear is from output pinion to drive shaft angles.....good luck.

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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Teuf
The roar in the rear is from output pinion to drive shaft angles.....good luck.

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Nope... Found u- joint bad. Angle is perfect. I couldn't tell because I only checked axle end u joint.. Upper one was D stroyed... Don't see how I missed it but man was I glad it was a u joint. Thanks though!
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