Thurs. JULY 10 SEATTLE MID-WEEK RUN
#81
Originally posted by KevyWevy
would this book be called "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test"?
would this book be called "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test"?
It really is an awesome book... I think there are a couple of copies around here.
#84
Pics are up from the run last night:
http://www.midiwall.com/4Runner/dirt...MtGardner.html
Captions and sorting coming soon!
http://www.midiwall.com/4Runner/dirt...MtGardner.html
Captions and sorting coming soon!
#85
so... anyone got any input on how to work out the scratches?
I figure I'm about to buy a buffer, but I also figure that while I can buff a lot of this out, if I keep buffer after every run, then I'll eventually get down to bare metal...
I figure I'm about to buy a buffer, but I also figure that while I can buff a lot of this out, if I keep buffer after every run, then I'll eventually get down to bare metal...

#86
Mark,
In the past, I've used a product from Maguire's called Scratch-X or something silly like that- its basically rubbing compound, but you apply by hand, just on the scratches that you're trying to buff out- that way you're not slowly removing all the paint off your car. It works like a charm. My scratches this morning looked pretty scary, but nothing that won't buff out. Rob is probably shaking his head at us for even caring about paint....
In the past, I've used a product from Maguire's called Scratch-X or something silly like that- its basically rubbing compound, but you apply by hand, just on the scratches that you're trying to buff out- that way you're not slowly removing all the paint off your car. It works like a charm. My scratches this morning looked pretty scary, but nothing that won't buff out. Rob is probably shaking his head at us for even caring about paint....
#88
Originally posted by Mad Chemist
Rob is probably shaking his head at us for even caring about paint....
Rob is probably shaking his head at us for even caring about paint....
#89
Originally posted by Mad Chemist
Mark,
In the past, I've used a product from Maguire's called Scratch-X or something silly like that- its basically rubbing compound, but you apply by hand, just on the scratches that you're trying to buff out- that way you're not slowly removing all the paint off your car.
Mark,
In the past, I've used a product from Maguire's called Scratch-X or something silly like that- its basically rubbing compound, but you apply by hand, just on the scratches that you're trying to buff out- that way you're not slowly removing all the paint off your car.
As for you Madman Rob...

(thanks!)
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Originally posted by mpulver
so... anyone got any input on how to work out the scratches?
I figure I'm about to buy a buffer, but I also figure that while I can buff a lot of this out, if I keep buffer after every run, then I'll eventually get down to bare metal...
so... anyone got any input on how to work out the scratches?
I figure I'm about to buy a buffer, but I also figure that while I can buff a lot of this out, if I keep buffer after every run, then I'll eventually get down to bare metal...

I could get those scratches out very easily with my setup.
Clay bar, Griot's Machine Polish 1 or 2, then #3, then follow up with the wax I use.
It's all in the Porter Cable man, a marvelous machine.
I have had pin stripping too from tight trees, but they buff right out.
#93
Alcohol/Drug Policy of Trail Runs
Alcohol or drugs on the trail is not an acceptable practice for our organized off-roading runs. This is not to say that there aren't individuals/clubs out there that allow it, but they are typically the ones who give off-road enthusiasts a bad reputation among the general public. As the organizer of last night's run, and (unofficial) president of WA4ROC, I need watch out for the safety of the individuals who attend (I am not responsible in a legal sense, for any lawyers in the crowd, everyone wheels at their own risk). All participants share in the responsibility of keeping things as safe as possible.
Serious physical harm to both person and vehicle, possibly death, could result from an individual acting under the influence of alcohol or drugs while driving, let alone off-roading. One could imagine what may have gone wrong while Mike was on the hill- vehicle roll-over, a spotter getting crushed by the vehicle, etc. These runs are based on the foundation that we all care about our vehicles/bodies as much as the guy standing beside us, and trust is absolutely necessary.
For a club that is in its infancy, we cannot afford to generate a bad reputation for ourselves. Members of WA4ROC or individuals that attend events/trips planned by WA4ROC, are expected to act responsibly, follow the principles of “Tread Lightly,” and absolutely must abide by the law.
Regards,
David “Mad Chemist”
Serious physical harm to both person and vehicle, possibly death, could result from an individual acting under the influence of alcohol or drugs while driving, let alone off-roading. One could imagine what may have gone wrong while Mike was on the hill- vehicle roll-over, a spotter getting crushed by the vehicle, etc. These runs are based on the foundation that we all care about our vehicles/bodies as much as the guy standing beside us, and trust is absolutely necessary.
For a club that is in its infancy, we cannot afford to generate a bad reputation for ourselves. Members of WA4ROC or individuals that attend events/trips planned by WA4ROC, are expected to act responsibly, follow the principles of “Tread Lightly,” and absolutely must abide by the law.
Regards,
David “Mad Chemist”
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Well put
Alcohol has no business being on a trail ride.
Heck' it's hard enough sometimes to stay relaxed when your pucker valve is puckering due to a scary trail, and alcohol can really impede your judgement there, and cause you to get into trouble, and posibly hurt others in your group.
I always like to refer to this good read from Eric Johnson on his Naches trail report from several years ago.
If you read it, it's pretty funny when they start seeing the trees shake in the distance.
Heck' it's hard enough sometimes to stay relaxed when your pucker valve is puckering due to a scary trail, and alcohol can really impede your judgement there, and cause you to get into trouble, and posibly hurt others in your group.
I always like to refer to this good read from Eric Johnson on his Naches trail report from several years ago.
If you read it, it's pretty funny when they start seeing the trees shake in the distance.
#95
From Eric Johnson:
We walked the short distance from the cabin back to our trucks and ate lunch. The guys that reminded us of the cast from the movie Deliverance in the full-size rigs hailed us on CB at this point, and the conversation went like this:
Deliverance guy: "How you guys doing on damage?"
Us: "Nothing busted so far. How about you?"
"The Chevy bent a tie rod, and I've gotten three..."
Suddenly, we hear a V8 rev up, hear a crunch, see a tree shake in the distance, and hear some moaning. I'm not making this up.
"... make that FOUR dents. Oh well, we'll drink it off at the cabin."
We walked the short distance from the cabin back to our trucks and ate lunch. The guys that reminded us of the cast from the movie Deliverance in the full-size rigs hailed us on CB at this point, and the conversation went like this:
Deliverance guy: "How you guys doing on damage?"
Us: "Nothing busted so far. How about you?"
"The Chevy bent a tie rod, and I've gotten three..."
Suddenly, we hear a V8 rev up, hear a crunch, see a tree shake in the distance, and hear some moaning. I'm not making this up.
"... make that FOUR dents. Oh well, we'll drink it off at the cabin."
#96
Re: Alcohol/Drug Policy of Trail Runs
Originally posted by Mad Chemist
Alcohol or drugs on the trail is not an acceptable practice for our organized off-roading runs. This is not to say that there aren't individuals/clubs out there that allow it, but they are typically the ones who give off-road enthusiasts a bad reputation among the general public. As the organizer of last night's run, and (unofficial) president of WA4ROC, I need watch out for the safety of the individuals who attend (I am not responsible in a legal sense, for any lawyers in the crowd, everyone wheels at their own risk). All participants share in the responsibility of keeping things as safe as possible.
Serious physical harm to both person and vehicle, possibly death, could result from an individual acting under the influence of alcohol or drugs while driving, let alone off-roading. One could imagine what may have gone wrong while Mike was on the hill- vehicle roll-over, a spotter getting crushed by the vehicle, etc. These runs are based on the foundation that we all care about our vehicles/bodies as much as the guy standing beside us, and trust is absolutely necessary.
For a club that is in its infancy, we cannot afford to generate a bad reputation for ourselves. Members of WA4ROC or individuals that attend events/trips planned by WA4ROC, are expected to act responsibly, follow the principles of “Tread Lightly,” and absolutely must abide by the law.
Regards,
David “Mad Chemist”
Alcohol or drugs on the trail is not an acceptable practice for our organized off-roading runs. This is not to say that there aren't individuals/clubs out there that allow it, but they are typically the ones who give off-road enthusiasts a bad reputation among the general public. As the organizer of last night's run, and (unofficial) president of WA4ROC, I need watch out for the safety of the individuals who attend (I am not responsible in a legal sense, for any lawyers in the crowd, everyone wheels at their own risk). All participants share in the responsibility of keeping things as safe as possible.
Serious physical harm to both person and vehicle, possibly death, could result from an individual acting under the influence of alcohol or drugs while driving, let alone off-roading. One could imagine what may have gone wrong while Mike was on the hill- vehicle roll-over, a spotter getting crushed by the vehicle, etc. These runs are based on the foundation that we all care about our vehicles/bodies as much as the guy standing beside us, and trust is absolutely necessary.
For a club that is in its infancy, we cannot afford to generate a bad reputation for ourselves. Members of WA4ROC or individuals that attend events/trips planned by WA4ROC, are expected to act responsibly, follow the principles of “Tread Lightly,” and absolutely must abide by the law.
Regards,
David “Mad Chemist”
Drink it up in camp, stagger around, talk about your new boots, all after you are off the trail and stationary for the evening. Knock yourself out and you will hear nothing from me.
But, I have put a lot of time and money into my rig and most of the people I wheel with feel the same way. I WILL NOT stand by and allow someone to jeopardize the safety of themselves, me, my friends or our rigs.
If you can't wait until you are off the trail, you have more of a problem than I can help with, but that will not stop me from being very vocal about it or removing your valve cores to protect myself.
Save everyone the hassle. If you want to drink and drive, do it with one of the clubs that tolerates it. I for one am tired of picking up the empties you toss out and tired of having to watch out for you and recovery you after your screwed up judgement leads you to do something stupid.
There are NO excuses... it should be common sense.
#97
Originally posted by mpulver
so... anyone got any input on how to work out the scratches?
I figure I'm about to buy a buffer, but I also figure that while I can buff a lot of this out, if I keep buffer after every run, then I'll eventually get down to bare metal...
so... anyone got any input on how to work out the scratches?
I figure I'm about to buy a buffer, but I also figure that while I can buff a lot of this out, if I keep buffer after every run, then I'll eventually get down to bare metal...

WHOA!! That is some serious pinstriping! Let us know how it turns out. Are you buffing this weekend?
#98
looks like that 3rd gen paint gets scratched a lot easier than the 2nd gens. or at least mine. or maybe its just cause mine is white. but i thought my rig was gonna be all dirty this morning. so i was just gonna spray it down, since its was all niced and waxed last week. it didn't even look dirty!!!! it was so wierd. its like the 100 mph drive home just swept all the dirt right off!!! hahaha. and now i get to drive down to mount hood tomorrow


