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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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would this book be called "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test"?
Grahshahpah! You do well!

It really is an awesome book... I think there are a couple of copies around here.
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 11:41 PM
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im very Knowledge when it comes to using google!!! ahahahaha
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Old Jul 10, 2003 | 11:56 PM
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You mean THE bus?


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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 06:20 AM
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Pics are up from the run last night:

http://www.midiwall.com/4Runner/dirt...MtGardner.html


Captions and sorting coming soon!
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 06:24 AM
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so... anyone got any input on how to work out the scratches?

I figure I'm about to buy a buffer, but I also figure that while I can buff a lot of this out, if I keep buffer after every run, then I'll eventually get down to bare metal...

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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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Mark,

In the past, I've used a product from Maguire's called Scratch-X or something silly like that- its basically rubbing compound, but you apply by hand, just on the scratches that you're trying to buff out- that way you're not slowly removing all the paint off your car. It works like a charm. My scratches this morning looked pretty scary, but nothing that won't buff out. Rob is probably shaking his head at us for even caring about paint....
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 08:36 AM
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A picture of the wiley 4Runner in its natural habitat, apparently these beasts like to travel in packs, much like the hyena (using my best 'National Geographic' voice):
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 08:38 AM
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Rob is probably shaking his head at us for even caring about paint....
Not at all... I remember that feeling well. But after a while you end up having to make choices between doing a trail and taking some pinstriping or not doing the trail to remain clean. I still care and will go out of my way to avoid scratches, but sometimes they are unavoidable in the course of a trail and I have reconciled myself to that... at least mostly...
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by Mad Chemist
Mark,

In the past, I've used a product from Maguire's called Scratch-X or something silly like that- its basically rubbing compound, but you apply by hand, just on the scratches that you're trying to buff out- that way you're not slowly removing all the paint off your car.
Cool... I'll go look for that today. Thanks David!


As for you Madman Rob...

(thanks!)
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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As for you Madman Rob...

(thanks!)
I am just an amateur madman compared to Smegal and his dead end hill climbs... hehehehe
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by mpulver
so... anyone got any input on how to work out the scratches?

I figure I'm about to buy a buffer, but I also figure that while I can buff a lot of this out, if I keep buffer after every run, then I'll eventually get down to bare metal...
The Porter Cable buffer system as outlined on my detail site will not ruin your paint like a regular buffer.

I could get those scratches out very easily with my setup.
Clay bar, Griot's Machine Polish 1 or 2, then #3, then follow up with the wax I use.

It's all in the Porter Cable man, a marvelous machine.
I have had pin stripping too from tight trees, but they buff right out.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 09:26 AM
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Corey,

Ray, a member of WA4ROC, is a true believer of your system, and Mark and I are coniving, ahh, I mean convincing him to do our rigs!
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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Alcohol/Drug Policy of Trail Runs

Alcohol or drugs on the trail is not an acceptable practice for our organized off-roading runs. This is not to say that there aren't individuals/clubs out there that allow it, but they are typically the ones who give off-road enthusiasts a bad reputation among the general public. As the organizer of last night's run, and (unofficial) president of WA4ROC, I need watch out for the safety of the individuals who attend (I am not responsible in a legal sense, for any lawyers in the crowd, everyone wheels at their own risk). All participants share in the responsibility of keeping things as safe as possible.

Serious physical harm to both person and vehicle, possibly death, could result from an individual acting under the influence of alcohol or drugs while driving, let alone off-roading. One could imagine what may have gone wrong while Mike was on the hill- vehicle roll-over, a spotter getting crushed by the vehicle, etc. These runs are based on the foundation that we all care about our vehicles/bodies as much as the guy standing beside us, and trust is absolutely necessary.

For a club that is in its infancy, we cannot afford to generate a bad reputation for ourselves. Members of WA4ROC or individuals that attend events/trips planned by WA4ROC, are expected to act responsibly, follow the principles of “Tread Lightly,” and absolutely must abide by the law.

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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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Well put

Alcohol has no business being on a trail ride.
Heck' it's hard enough sometimes to stay relaxed when your pucker valve is puckering due to a scary trail, and alcohol can really impede your judgement there, and cause you to get into trouble, and posibly hurt others in your group.

I always like to refer to this good read from Eric Johnson on his Naches trail report from several years ago.

If you read it, it's pretty funny when they start seeing the trees shake in the distance.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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From Eric Johnson:

We walked the short distance from the cabin back to our trucks and ate lunch. The guys that reminded us of the cast from the movie Deliverance in the full-size rigs hailed us on CB at this point, and the conversation went like this:
Deliverance guy: "How you guys doing on damage?"
Us: "Nothing busted so far. How about you?"
"The Chevy bent a tie rod, and I've gotten three..."


Suddenly, we hear a V8 rev up, hear a crunch, see a tree shake in the distance, and hear some moaning. I'm not making this up.

"... make that FOUR dents. Oh well, we'll drink it off at the cabin."


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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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Re: Alcohol/Drug Policy of Trail Runs

Originally posted by Mad Chemist
Alcohol or drugs on the trail is not an acceptable practice for our organized off-roading runs. This is not to say that there aren't individuals/clubs out there that allow it, but they are typically the ones who give off-road enthusiasts a bad reputation among the general public. As the organizer of last night's run, and (unofficial) president of WA4ROC, I need watch out for the safety of the individuals who attend (I am not responsible in a legal sense, for any lawyers in the crowd, everyone wheels at their own risk). All participants share in the responsibility of keeping things as safe as possible.

Serious physical harm to both person and vehicle, possibly death, could result from an individual acting under the influence of alcohol or drugs while driving, let alone off-roading. One could imagine what may have gone wrong while Mike was on the hill- vehicle roll-over, a spotter getting crushed by the vehicle, etc. These runs are based on the foundation that we all care about our vehicles/bodies as much as the guy standing beside us, and trust is absolutely necessary.

For a club that is in its infancy, we cannot afford to generate a bad reputation for ourselves. Members of WA4ROC or individuals that attend events/trips planned by WA4ROC, are expected to act responsibly, follow the principles of “Tread Lightly,” and absolutely must abide by the law.

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This is also the policy on all TTORA runs.

Drink it up in camp, stagger around, talk about your new boots, all after you are off the trail and stationary for the evening. Knock yourself out and you will hear nothing from me.

But, I have put a lot of time and money into my rig and most of the people I wheel with feel the same way. I WILL NOT stand by and allow someone to jeopardize the safety of themselves, me, my friends or our rigs.

If you can't wait until you are off the trail, you have more of a problem than I can help with, but that will not stop me from being very vocal about it or removing your valve cores to protect myself.

Save everyone the hassle. If you want to drink and drive, do it with one of the clubs that tolerates it. I for one am tired of picking up the empties you toss out and tired of having to watch out for you and recovery you after your screwed up judgement leads you to do something stupid.

There are NO excuses... it should be common sense.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by mpulver
so... anyone got any input on how to work out the scratches?

I figure I'm about to buy a buffer, but I also figure that while I can buff a lot of this out, if I keep buffer after every run, then I'll eventually get down to bare metal...


WHOA!! That is some serious pinstriping! Let us know how it turns out. Are you buffing this weekend?
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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looks like that 3rd gen paint gets scratched a lot easier than the 2nd gens. or at least mine. or maybe its just cause mine is white. but i thought my rig was gonna be all dirty this morning. so i was just gonna spray it down, since its was all niced and waxed last week. it didn't even look dirty!!!! it was so wierd. its like the 100 mph drive home just swept all the dirt right off!!! hahaha. and now i get to drive down to mount hood tomorrow
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 02:40 PM
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Great pictures from your run yesterday. I bet the scenery is even more beautiful in person. Nice pinstriping! Looks like you guys had a good time.
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 07:37 PM
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Okay, so....

There's another thursday coming right around the corner!

Anyone? Ferris?
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