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Norcal, Socal Mammoth/June Lake Multi-day & Multi-sport trip - July 14-17, 2006

June Lake/Mammoth 2006
Dates: July 14-17, 2006
Camp Site: Oh Ridge



Area Information
If you'd like to learn more about the June Lake area, accomodations, activities, etc, take a look at the June Lake Chamber of Commerce's website

Camp Site Directions
350 miles north of Los Angeles and 150 miles south of Reno, take US 395 to its southern junction with Highway 158. Take 158 1 mile. Turn right on North Shore Drive. Go approximately 1 mile, turn left on Pine Cliff Road. Go 1/2 mile to entrance of campground.

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Campsite Map and Reservations
Make your reservations early. Reserve your spot at this weblink. Please try to reserve your spots near the south part of the complex, as the view of the lake is much nicer. We were told that Duck and Squirrel loops provided the best views. However, feel free to make your reservations anywhere you please inside of the Oh Ridge campground.



Attendees will be camped here:
Duck #29 - Joel +1A (SinCity04 - 04 4runner LTD 4x4) (Thurs 8pm - Sun)
Duck #30 - (vegaskurt - 97 4Runner LTD) - (Friday afternoon - Sunday)
Duck #31 - John +1A,+2K (04sport4x4 - 04 4runner SE 4x4) (Fri 5pm - Mon)
Duck #32 - Russell +1A (Boogyman - 00 Taco V6 TRD ) (Fri 1pm - Mon)
Duck #33 - Ken +1A (Paddlenbike - 00 4runner SR5 4x4)
Duck #34 - AVAILABLE - PM Charles (Calrockx)
Squirrel #46 - Bob +1A (bob98sr5 - 98 4runner SR5 4x4) - (Fri 1pm - Sun)
Squirrel #47 - Lance (Good Times - 03 4runner SR5 4x4) - (Fri 11pm - Sun)
Squirrel #48 - Steve +1A (Robinhood4x4 - 93 4Runner 4x4) - (Thurs 8pm - Tues)
Squirrel #49 - GROUP MEETING SITE --- PITCH IN A BUCK!
Squirrel #50 - GROUP MEETING SITE --- PITCH IN A BUCK!
Squirrel #53 - Chris +1A/1B (slosurfer - 93 4runner SR5 4x4 & 05 Tundra) - (Thurs 5pm - Sun)
Coyote #76 - Reggie +3A/2K (reggie 00 - 83 Truck 4x4) - (Fri - Sun)
Off site - Scott +1A (Scottiac - 97 4runner LTD 4x4) - (entire week)

Pot Luck List:
reggie 00 - marinated tri-tip and ice-cream!
Good Times - burger meat/buns and hot dogs for the kids! and some cookies/chips
slosurfer - ember roasted sweet potatoes, veggie burger and San Luis Sourdough
slosurfer's bro - linguica
boogyman - pasta salad and potato chips
SinCity04 - sausages
Robinhood - costco bbq ribs
Bob_98SR5 - german potato salad and churros (churros might need to be cooked by friday nite)

Lodging Information
For those of you who wish to stay indoors, here is a link to a list of hotels, lodges, etc from the June Lake Chamber of Commerce. We will leave those who take this route to choose their own accomodations.

What to Expect
The Oh Ridge campground has communal flush bathrooms and running water. Tap water can be had at faucets around camp and it actually tastes pretty good. Please don’t do dishes or clean fish at the faucet, bring a bucket or a water container and fill it up and bring it back to the campsite. Showers are available at the general store for a small fee.

Weather in the Sierras can be unpredictable; it’s the nature of the high desert mountains. It can be 80 degrees one minute and showering the next minute. ALWAYS BE PREPARED FOR THUNDER SHOWERS. It probably won’t rain, but it would suck to be caught without rain clothes. Day time temperatures will be in the 80s, night time temperatures will be in the 50s.

During the day it can get windy, especially in at the camp site and on Lake Crawley. While you don’t need to stake down your tent, you do need to put heavy items at the corners so it doesn’t blow away. Tents have been known to fly across the campground when the owners were gone.

Altitudes will range from 6500 feet up to 10,000 feet. At these altitudes there is very little atmosphere to protect you from the sun, so you will most likely get sunburned. Always wear a hat and sunscreen. Long sleeve shirts are nice too, but can get hot.

Mosquitoes can be a problem in some areas, be sure to bring insect repellent. DEET is the best, you can decide on what percentage you want to use. Don’t forget about your dog too, they can get eaten alive out there. Check with your vet about insect repellent for pets.

Bears are occasionally seen and while not as bad as Yosemite, can destroy your truck or campsite getting to food. Bear boxes are provided at the campsite so please use them. That includes make up, toothpaste, candy wrappers, soda cans, etc. Usually bears can be scared away by banging pots and pans together.

The destinations are spread out up and down 395. Normally you can expect to drive 1 hour north or south of June Lake to get to the farthest lakes. Be prepared to spend money on gas as it is very expensive up there. Generally, gas is cheapest in the town of Bishop, so fill up there if you can. The next cheapest is in the town of Mammoth.

The town of Mammoth (20-25 minutes south of June Lake) is a fairly large ski town so you can have all the creature comforts such as a grocery store and restaurants.

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Activities:
Fishing

Location: Any of the dozens of lakes up and down 395 from Rock Creek Lake to Bridgeport.

Estimated Time: Afternoons

Things to Bring: Fishing gear, Fishing License, chair, drinks, snacks, sunscreen, camera, bug repellent, etc.

Where to Rent Boats: Boats can be rented on just about any of the major lakes. Prices are around this range:

4 person aluminum boat = $55 all day
6 person alum boat (seats swivel) = $55 a day
9 peep Pontoon boat w/ deck (sounds like a party boat) = $175 a day

Two websites links:


Gull Lake: http://gulllakemarina.com/boatrentList.php
Silver Lake: http://www.silverlakeresort.net/Silver_Lake_Rx.html

CROWLEY LAKE
A man-made lake located 10 miles south of Mammoth Junction. Popular with fishermen and water-skiers, but the water will be cold. First formed in 1940 as part of the Los Angeles Aqueduct system. Fee at entrance. And then there's Crowley Lake:

RENTAL BOATS
All Day 15 HP...........................$70.00
All Day 30HP........................$89.00
Half Day 15 HP .......................$55.00
Half Day 30HP..........................$65.00

Half day rentals begin at 12:00 noon

PONTOON BOATS (seats 8)
All Day..........................................$200. 00
Half Day......................................$150.00

Lake Mary (Elev. 8,920 ft.)
The largest lake in the Basin is nearly a mile long. This is the popular lake for fishing, boating and sailing. At the upper end is Coldwater Creek, where the John Muir Duck Lake Pass trailhead is. Hikers can hike one mile to the first of several lakes on the trail.

Convict Lake
The oldest rocks in the Sierra Nevada range were discovered here. This is a beautiful spot tucked against the Sierra Range. This is a nice place for picnicking, fishing, hiking, horseback riding, boating and camping. Convict Lake is located 10 miles south of the Mammoth Junction on US 395, then two miles west.


Where to Rent Float Tubes and Fly Fishing Gear: http://www.thetroutfly.com/rentalsdemos.html

Fishing licenses: Information on fishing licenses can be found here: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/licensing/fish...shdescrip.html You will need to get a 1 day, 2 day or an annual freshwater license. Here is a pdf of the California Freshwater fishing regulations. You are responsible for knowing the rules: http://www.fgc.ca.gov/2006/06freshfishregbook.pdf

Notes on Fishing:
The type of fishing in the Sierras is Trout fishing, mostly Rainbow Trout but sometimes Brook Trout and Brown Trout. Sizes typically range from a little less than 1 pound to a little more than 1 pound, however, the occasional Alpers trout can weigh near 10 pounds.

Spinning Rod Setup: I use an ultralight setup which means 2 pound line with either a lurer or a sliding bubble filled with water and a single hook with powerbait (treble hooks work better but are a pain to remove from the fish). Typically, lurers around 1 inch long that are gold or silver work well. Personally I like Phoebes, Super Dupers, and Kastmasters, but others work well too.

The picture below shows my setup. For the purposes of this photo, the leader is not actually 3 feet long.


Fly Fishing Setup: Typically, 5-6 weight rods work well, but if you’re into ultralight 2-3 weight is fun. For lake fishing I usually float tube and use a 6 weight sinking tip line with a 5x leader. Size 14 Olive Wooly Buggers are my go to fly, followed by other colors of Wooly Buggers or Matukas and various small scuds. Depending on conditions I might switch to a full sinking line. Of course you do not have to fly fish when you float tube, lots of people use normal fishing gear when float tubing…Float tubing is a lot of fun. If you’d like to try fly fishing and/or float tubing you can rent all the equipment from The Trout Fly in mammoth http://www.thetroutfly.com/rentalsdemos.html, prices are reasonable. I can be available for a basic fly fishing lesson, but please let me know before you rent equipment, we’ll need to figure out the schedule.

Offroad / Hike
Location: Laurel Canyon





Elevation:
7,289 feet at Sherwin Creek Road and the road to Laurel Lakes;
10,058 at the highest point of the road above Upper Laurel Lake.

Trail Distance: 4 miles round trip
Difficulty: 4x4 required, easy. Great for 1st time offroaders.

Map:







Description:
The trail to Laurel Lakes offers beautiful views of Mammoth as you climb out of the valley and away from Sherwin Creek Road (4s08). The trail starts on (4s86), and begins climbing a set of steep switchbacks with imbedded and loose rock. Vehicles with low ground clearance may scrape. At the top of the switchbacks you have a wonderful view of Mammoth Lakes, and the Sierra Nevada mountains. You continue south and enter the Inyo National Forest. At 1.7 miles you cross a cattle guard and begin following Laurel Creek. At 2.0 miles you can drive down a short trail to the west, and make camp in one of the most beautiful camp sites i have stayed in. The camp sits under a large Aspen grove, with Laurel Creek flowing in the background. Truly Breathtaking
After the Campsite, the trail climbs a narrow shelf road to the Laurel Lakes. It is about 3 miles to the lakes from the campsite. The lakes offer native trout fishing (not a stocked lake), and clear emerald colored water. The trail ends at the lakes 10,000 ft elevation. When driving down the trail you are afforded amazing views of this narrow, glacier carved canyon.



Bodie Ghost Town



Duration: Half day excursion. 43 miles north of June Lake.

Location: Bodie is 13 miles east of Highway 395 on Highway 270, which is 6 miles south of Bridgeport.

Difficulty: Easy

Additional Links:
In 1859 William (a.k.a. Waterman) S. Bodey discovered gold near what is now called Bodie Bluff. A mill was established in 1861 and the town began to grow. It started with about 20 miners and grew to an estimated 10,000 people by 1880! By that time, the town of Bodie bustled with families, robbers, miners, store owners, gunfighters and prostitutes of all kinds. At one time there was reported to be 65 saloons in town. Amongst the saloons were numerous brothels and 'houses of ill repute', gambling halls and opium dens. Needless to say that there was entertainment for every taste.
East Craters Loop

Trail Length: 24 miles round trip
Location: Just east of June Lake Junction
Difficulty: 4WD High Clearance Vehicles only

Trail Highlights:
The sights you see include Mono Craters, Sand Flats and Devil's Punchbowl. The loop follows the same road for 24 bumpy, dusty and spectacular scenic miles.

Trail head: From June Lakes, head north on Hwy. 395. Turn right on a dirt road 200 yards past the June Lake Junction. 100 yards down this dirt road there is a kiosk. The east Craters Loop begins here, heading south. The road splits after 200 yards. This marks the beginning and end of the entire loop. Go left, following the directional signs.

Chemung Mine and Mill



Duration: Half day excursion. It is approximately 40 miles north of June Lake.
Difficulty: 2wd friendly? (need to confirm)

Location:Chemung Mine is on the Masonic Road off CA-182 north of Bridgeport. There are several mines in the vicinity.Additional Links:
http://www.ghosttown.info/ca/chemung/index.html http://www.robertwynn.com/Chemung.htm
http://www.dzrtgrls.com/chemung_succ...ng_success.htm

History: In 1909 the Chemung mine was discovered a short distance from Masonic, and continued to operate until about 1938

Freshwater Kayaking
There are lots of freshwater lakes that offer delightful locations to paddle kayaks and canoes. You can paddle your boat to a secluded beach and enjoy a picnic in the sand.

Crowley Lake is a large freshwater lake close to Mammoth Lakes with spectacular vistas of the surrounding Sierra Nevada peaks. The U.S. Olympic Flat Water Kayak Team might train on the waters of Crowley Lake in preparation for the year 2004 Olympics in Athens. We offer lakefront lessons and quality kayak rentals at the Crowley Lake Marina from May through the middle of October. On the water kayak rentals make it convenient and easy to paddle a scenic gem overlooked by many paddlers. Paddle a kayak along the twenty mile shoreline and discover hidden coves and sandy beaches for yourself.

Grant Lake, a reservoir upstream from Mono Lake, has lots of sandy beaches and great vistas of Mt. Wood. Trees line the shoreline and the water is refreshing on a hot day. Autumn colors are especially vibrant on the lakeshore and hills that surround the lake. Grant Lake is part of the watershed that fills Mono Lake so we are happy to see the lake quite full these days.

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Devil's Postpile & Rainbow Falls





Location: 25 miles south of June Lake, just east of Mammoth Mountain.
Highlight: Stunning 100 foot waterfall, unusual volcanic formations, lovely river
Distance: 3.5 Miles
Elevation: 300 ft
Hike Time: 2 hours
Difficulty: Easy
Trail Conditions: Well maintained trail
Hike Type: Point to Point

Summary:
This easy hike include two of natures wonders. From the parking area, follow the well marked trail about a half mile to Devils Postpile. The Postpile is an amazing set of crystallized vertical columns of lava, caused by differing rates of cooling. I truly looks line the devil pushed giant posts up from under the earth!

Continue on the trail about 2 miles, following the well marked signs towards Rainbow Falls, enjoying the lovely San Joaquin river along the way. Rainbow falls is a staggering spectacle, plunging 100 foot over a shear cliff into a lovely horseshoe shaped amphitheater. You can walk along the rocks near enough to feel the mist of the falls.

Return on the same trail, branching tight at about the half mile mark, taking to trail towards Reds Meadow resort where a cool drink and the shuttle bus awaits.
Trailhead:
From 395, exit at Mammoth Lakes Junction (highway 203) , turn left, and follow the road through town. Turn right at Minaret Road and follow the signs to the Mammoth ski resort. During the summer, you are required to take a shuttle bus down into Red's Meadow. Have the driver drop you off at the Devils Postpile parking area. You will pick the shuttle bus up again at the Red's Meadow Resort for the return trip back to your car.
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Elevation:



Mono Lake South Tufa



Highlights:
Bizzare Calcium Carbonate formations, otherworldly atmosphere, surroundings.
Location: Lee Vining, CA (12.6 miles away)
Scenery: 5/5 Stars
Distance: 3 miles round trip
Elevation: 50 feet gain
Hike Time: 1.5 hours
Difficulty: Easy
Trail Condition: Well maintained trail
Hike Type: Loop

Topo Map:



Elevation Map:



Location Map:


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Originally Posted by chiefiji
i'm definitely interested as i've never been up to mammoth before. i'd be interested in doing some fishing and hiking, maybe even kayak fishing if i ever get around to fixing up my kayak.

july 14th is good with me so far, can't really tell until next month though. i'll be going the camping route for sure. since i'm not familiar with the area at all, i'm a bit hesitant to volunteer for putting together a hiking event. if no one steps up though, i'll be more than willing to do the research.
yeah, dont worry about being an "expert" volunteer. as long as you can do some homework on the area trails and be able to tell people where to go (and lead), that is good enough. hey, steve, tom and i put together pismo 1 trip and we've had never been desert duning!

and steve, im looking forward to fishing with you. hopefully i won't snag you like that scene in "theres something about mary"

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July 4th, huh. The one off road trail I know of will probably be snowed in at the top.

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I'm in if I can get the time off. I'm into fishing and have fished there quite a few times. We can hit the Mammoth Lakes, creeks or the River, or drive or even hike to any of the numerous lakes up there. Tons of fireroads to drive on, some mtn. trails, Mono Lake, Bodi ghost town, etc.

It has gotten more crowded in the summer due to all the growth up there over the past decade.

I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure June Lake is more than 15 min. from Mammoth.

I've got Mitchells SUV Handbook for the Eastern Sierra's and I'm sure there will be Mammoth trails in there.

I'm taking the family up there in April for a week or so and will try to gather some info.

Oh, and the accomodations are usually plentiful, and cheap, in the summer. Though the jazz festival may be a big draw ?

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some of you met my neighbor glenn and his fiance, daniella at DV. anyways, we went to the gym today to try to burn off the potluck fest from this weekend. he said that if june or mammoth lakes has boats to rent with wakeboards, glenn said he would be more than willing to be the organizer and instructor for this activity.

way to go, detective vic mackey!

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I'll post up later after I've check dates, but I am definitely interested for this for me and the family, especially with the guys and gals from our DV trip. I'll offer my services too for any water skiing activities. I use to run my own water ski school in Oz. If we can get a boat with a boom bar we could have everyone skiing by the end of the day. I wonder if the water is glass enough for barefooting? Hmmm...I bet the water would be cold that time of year with snow melt.
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I'll post up later after I've check dates, but I am definitely interested for this for me and the family, especially with the guys and gals from our DV trip. I'll offer my services too for any water skiing activities. I use to run my own water ski school in Oz. If we can get a boat with a boom bar we could have everyone skiing by the end of the day. I wonder if the water is glass enough for barefooting? Hmmm...I bet the water would be cold that time of year with snow melt.
Mark,

You are a man of many talents, I must say I'll let Glenn know that you'd be interested in helping out w/ the water sports activities. Given the level of expertise between you two, sounds like this will be a "must do" activity for all. Perhaps by the end of the trip, you guys might be able to organize something like this:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/2006/02/pyramid.html



Thanks for the feedback, Mark.

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Mammoth Mt. is 25 minutes or so from June Lake. I go to Mammoth/June around 6 times a year (for 3-4 day trips) so I'm pretty familiar with it. Since the big Mammoth boom, I always stay in June now and love it. If you have never been to the area, there is so much to see. The geology around there is rediculous... read this for more info. You definitely need to check out the hot springs and Devil's Postpile.
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Originally Posted by Jared
Mammoth Mt. is 25 minutes or so from June Lake. I go to Mammoth/June around 6 times a year (for 3-4 day trips) so I'm pretty familiar with it. Since the big Mammoth boom, I always stay in June now and love it. If you have never been to the area, there is so much to see. The geology around there is rediculous... read this for more info. You definitely need to check out the hot springs and Devil's Postpile.
jared,

we need to talk i'll email/pm you with my contact info

so does this mean you can make it?

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I'm a tentative yes on this one. Depends on work.

I've been mountain biking at Mammoth before and it's awesome! You rent a full suspension bike at the ski resort, take the lifts to the top, and spend all day bombing down single-track! It's one of the most fun things I've done. Gotta squeeze in a day of that....
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jared,

we need to talk i'll email/pm you with my contact info

so does this mean you can make it?

bob

Actually, I might be in Hawaii that weekend, so I'm tentative.

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No water skiing / wake boarding in any of the Mammoth Lakes (they are all pretty small), I'm not sure about June or Crowley, though. That water is not warm. As an FYI, the town of Mammoth is at an elevation of about 8,000 ft. The main Lodge is at about 9,000 ft., and the top o' the mtn is about 11,050 ft. It's pretty easy to get winded there, even in town.

EDIT: One or two of the Mammoth Lakes rents tinny's for fishing, though.

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I think I've seen people water skiing in one of the lakes in the June lake loop. I forget the name, it's the last one in the loop that's barren of trees.

Other than that I can't think of anywhere else to water ski, maybe twin lakes in bridgeport? Most of the lakes up there are pretty small.

I'm organizing the fishing part, but depending on how many people attend this trip, I'll need many more guides. If you guys are familiar with the area and fishing, I think we should break up into groups no larger than 5 vehicles and hit different lakes every day.

BTW, I've been going to mammoth for the past 20 years, usually 1-3 times per summer.

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Man, I'd love to start fishing again. I need to talk to the SO about this.
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Originally Posted by Robinhood150
I think I've seen people water skiing in one of the lakes in the June lake loop. I forget the name, it's the last one in the loop that's barren of trees.

Other than that I can't think of anywhere else to water ski, maybe twin lakes in bridgeport? Most of the lakes up there are pretty small.

I'm organizing the fishing part, but depending on how many people attend this trip, I'll need many more guides. If you guys are familiar with the area and fishing, I think we should break up into groups no larger than 5 vehicles and hit different lakes every day.

BTW, I've been going to mammoth for the past 20 years, usually 1-3 times per summer.
I think you are talking about Grant Lake here Steve. If there is water, they ski there...


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