General Electrical & Lighting Related Topics Ask here for electrical, wiring, and lighting info for your rig that could apply to all years

Is it time to call the experts

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 02:42 AM
  #1  
wyoyodder's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Wyoming
Is it time to call the experts

Hi all... I have tried all I can do with my project truck. Its a 1990 3.0 v6 4x4 has the 3vze motor. I got the truck as a project and it has lived up to that name. I cant get any spark, have tried everything from replacing the igniter and coil checked air gap for the pickups checked voltages and ohms on everywire i could find and nothing is out of spec, yet still nothing. Tried to do a self diagnostic but was unable to pull any codes to speak of. I amway past whatI can do and I have run out of tools to use. Is it time to call the professionals?
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 02:54 AM
  #2  
brianh699's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
From: Salt Lake City, Utah
Do you have battery voltage @ ignition coil? Have you followed the drill down in the fsm? http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...12onvehicl.pdf
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 02:54 AM
  #3  
suncomb1's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 684
Likes: 1
From: Downingtown, PA
Did you check your plug wires? If they are resistance type wires, even if they pass an ohm check, they could be bad when voltage goes through. Try a non resistance type coil wire for a test first then a non-resistance type wire to #1 cylinder and see if you get spark.
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 03:04 AM
  #4  
wyoyodder's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Wyoming
Yeah I have tried all of that even went so far as borrowing a service manual from a mechanic friend and going through the entire flow chart with it. All the wires are new plugs cap rotor coil and igniter. I am completely lost here, there is no logical eason why there i no spark
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 03:14 AM
  #5  
suncomb1's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 684
Likes: 1
From: Downingtown, PA
If you have 12 volt power to the ignitor, you do not have a bad / poor ground in the system and you checked all of the things stated then I have to agree with you there is no logical reason why you do not have spark.
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 03:17 AM
  #6  
wyoyodder's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Wyoming
Yep when I checked the igniter I had 12v and have gone over the wiring several times to make sure nothing is broke or rubbed or not connected, I am stumped but thanks for the help.
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 03:18 AM
  #7  
brianh699's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
From: Salt Lake City, Utah
Do you have a good ground? The coil/ignitor ground through the mounting bracket to the inner fender, if it's corroded the coil will not fire. Just a thought.
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 03:26 AM
  #8  
suncomb1's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 684
Likes: 1
From: Downingtown, PA
Just a thought, did you check the connector plug going to the distriputer? Sometimes when you plug connectors together a wire will move within the connector and really not make full contact. See if the wires within the plug wiggle or move excessively. Check your other plugs in the system as well.
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 03:29 AM
  #9  
wyoyodder's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Wyoming
I will check those things after work and see what happens thanks again for the tips
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 07:55 AM
  #10  
wyoming9's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,381
Likes: 100
From: I live in New Tripoli Pa out in the woods
Red face

You by dumb luck reverse the polarity on the coil .

It could happen be enough to drive you crazy like it seems to be doing.

Where in Wyoming are you ??

This could be a good time to make a house call I bet things have really changed since 1975
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 03:42 PM
  #11  
wyoyodder's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Wyoming
How do I check on the polarity thing, never heard of that before but knowing my luck anything can happen. I live in the heart of the big horn basin the land of sweet grass and big critters. And right now one hell of a blizzard, might wait a few days and let the weather pass.
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2013 | 05:23 PM
  #12  
suncomb1's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 684
Likes: 1
From: Downingtown, PA
If you are running a Toyota factory ignitor / coil unit and stock wiring connector you could not reverse the polarity on the coil because the connector only goes on one way. If you are running non-factory wiring then you could have reversed the polarity: ignitor + to coil - and ignitor - to coil + when they should be ignitor + to Coil + and Ignitor - to coil -. Sorry, I do not know the specific wiring or color code for your vehicle.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2013 | 07:56 PM
  #13  
prickelsworth's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: oregon
Mine did this for a while there is a coil in the distributor check it. It was ruining the big coil on the fender. Did it several times. Replaced the distributor for 160$ problem solved.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 04:20 PM
  #14  
Punchy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
From: 91765
Have you Ohm out all the wires from the distributor to the ECU.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RedRunner_87
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners (Build-Up Section)
84
Jun 1, 2021 01:51 PM
icentropy
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
22
Sep 16, 2020 02:47 PM
smiley52
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
8
Jul 11, 2015 05:16 AM
colinmil
Newbie Tech Section
2
Jul 6, 2015 04:03 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:37 AM.