i know they make these for jeeps however do they make these for toy pickups? can't find any

 

I don't think they make them for Toyotas, but the design looks easy enough to duplicate.

I heard they can unload at any time and make conditions unsafe and possibly cause a rollover. Say you are descending a steep hill and the shackles unload. Chances are your gonna find yourself upside down or on your side. They look cool and all, but I would stay away from them. Just my 2 cent.

 

http://www.windrockoffroad.com/PART/...OY-T/index.htm

and the installation instructions for them:
http://www.teraflx.com/installsheets/RTOY-T_install.pdf


I know a few guys running them, and they all have pretty good things to say about them. the only downside, as far as I've heard, is that they don't put any down pressure on the axle. so while they do allow the axle to droop further, you've only got the weight of the axle and wheel/tire on the ground, nothing from the spring.

I've not heard any reports of any change in street driveability. seems to me like if you've unloaded your rear springs, you're already pretty well doomed.

 

I stand corrected, but I still stand by my previous statement.

 

I had them on my Heep back in the day, when they were the latest fad. They would unload at the worst times and scare the crap out of me. Everyone I knew ended up defeating/pinning them so they couldn't unload and flop you.

I have never seen anyone run them for an extended time. Most folks like the idea, put them on, have them unload and almost (hopefully that is it) dump you over, then they defeat them on the spot with half a roll of duct tape each, only to remove them for something else on the next pay day.

On the upside, you can usually find lots of them used for cheap from people who are done with that experiment.

 

No kyle, you heard right. I was going to get these back when i was pretty new, and a guy at a local shop showed me a video of identical jeeps going down a pretty steep hill, but not bad, and the one that had revolver shackles suddenly pitched forward on a small drop and endoed.

I realize that's pretty extreme and that the WB of a jeep had a lot to do with it, but still, for the hassle, they don't gain you much.

 

I just bought some from All Pro. Have not put them on yet.

I have 63" Chevys on my truck, and am currently not getting enough droop.

I have 14" shocks, but the springs and shackles are so stiff, I am only getting half of the shock travel from bump to droop.

 

did you have them on the front AND rear? I can see how that could make for a scary situation. but it seems that if they were just on the rear, especially on an IFS truck, the effect would be minimal. especially if you had good shocks (prevent quick movement...might help keep things stable)

 

Rear only for me. When I got them, there was a notice in the box never to use them on a steering axle because of "unpredictable" behavior. In hindsight, that should have been enough of a hint...

They seem like a good idea, but in my experience that is not the case. There's still people out there who would rather spend the money and learn the lesson themselves, but for everyone else, there are plenty of accounts similar to mine scattered across off road forums all over the net.

 

huh, interesting. I didn't know that.


I was just talking to some of the local offroad guys....found out there's 2 more of them using these shackles than I thought. they all have positive things to say about them. one guy said, "they take some getting used to, but if you're a good driver, they're great"

 

Well you sound like you have convinced yourself, so have fun!

I am not sure what kind of wheeling they have in MN, but on the rocks and ledges out west, you couldn't pay me to run them.

 

haven't quite convinced myself, just cross referencing my information, and looking for more.

BUT, in asking about them, I found a local guy that had him on his Nissan, and loved them so much, he's making his own, same idea, more travel. and has offered to sell me his old ones for dirt cheap. so I'll be finding out....I'll just have to be careful about getting too off-camber until I get used to how they react.


then I heard something about the guy who invented them won't run them.....I wonder what the story is there.