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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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Mark,

That is awsome you found the centerlink and tie rod adjusting sleeves. Your back in business! One more thing that may be an problem, sorry I keep complicating things! I see you have a 1992 truck with a 3.0 V6. If you have AC on this model, the big R134 air conditioning compressor will obstruct the Rancho UCAs. Downey stated in their catalog it will not work. I am only sharing what I read? If you don't have AC it won't be an issue!
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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nate,

atleast your sharing stuff with them they might not know about ahead of time.
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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I've been running my Rancho UCA's for a little while now, and have had NO issues what-so-ever. Non gusseted, and with 1.5" BJ spacers, and a 1" diff drop as well. No CV binding, between almost a full 12" of travel when the weight of the truck is put on one tire, and the other is off the ground, using the stock T-bars, and most importantly, none of this cracking, bending, or breaking I keep hearing about... and I've had the front-end air borne with them, and have put them through their paces at 50mph down a washed out road (washed out to the point of having AT LEAST 4"-5" dips, one right after the other, for about a quarter mile stretch), so I've worked the system in a little bit, and she still rides like a champ. If it ever does fail on me, I'll be the first to come forward and say "yeah you told me so", but untill them, I'll stand behind them.






How do you get 12" of travel? From what I see, it looks like only 5" of travel. What I'm looking at is your suspension fully extended resting on the upper control arm bumpstop. Then I see your lower control arm bumpstop. The distance between the stop and the control does not look nowhere near 12". Also I looked at your other side fully compressed and the distance from the ground to the bottom of the tire does not look like 12". Just curious.

James
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BlazeN8
Mark,

That is awsome you found the centerlink and tie rod adjusting sleeves. Your back in business! One more thing that may be an problem, sorry I keep complicating things! I see you have a 1992 truck with a 3.0 V6. If you have AC on this model, the big R134 air conditioning compressor will obstruct the Rancho UCAs. Downey stated in their catalog it will not work. I am only sharing what I read? If you don't have AC it won't be an issue!
im gonna pull my hair out if it gets in the way? I do have AC and I dont want to get rid of it for those california hot summers. are you 100% sure its gonna get in the way?
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Heres some pictures... took pictures of both sides just for the hell of it.







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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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i got everything mike. jus got back. got centerlink and tie-rod extensions 4 u.
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesD
How do you get 12" of travel? From what I see, it looks like only 5" of travel. What I'm looking at is your suspension fully extended resting on the upper control arm bumpstop. Then I see your lower control arm bumpstop. The distance between the stop and the control does not look nowhere near 12". Also I looked at your other side fully compressed and the distance from the ground to the bottom of the tire does not look like 12". Just curious.

James
actually now that you mention it, I measured that before installing the taller droop bump-stops (that Nate mentioned), so the one side was drooped about another 2", lol


I need to take new measurements; it's probably closer to 9" or so now
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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o yea i forgot. i got the rancho torsion bars also. u should be happy now.
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Mark

I looked at the pictures you posted and the headers on the driver side might make contact with the UCA. The passenger side has the AC compressor and some hoses that look like they may also be in the way too. The qoute from Downey catalog back in 2001 says "Along came the 1990's and a big fat R134 air conditioning compressor. The Rancho upper control arms used with the Downey Kit no longer fit vehicles with the 3.0 V-6 engine with air conditioning"

I'm sure you will figure it out. Try it, if it hits...... someone else will buy the kit! And you have all the pieces, so thats a huge plus when you go to sell it. Rancho T-bars are decent, my brother has them on the Blazeland / Superlift combo kit.
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Superbleeder,

I like the Rancho design, thats way I spent so much time building the long arms for it. I ran the Rancho kit then the Rancho / Downey kit for years. I beat the crap out of it in the desert and down in Baja. But it did break on me down in San Felipe. When it broke I had just gotten off the dirt after hours of mobbing it in the whoops and just pulled onto the pavement. I heard a pop and the passenger side dropped, then the vehicle started pulling to the right. I was only doing 30mph so I just pulled off the road. The group I was with went and got the trailer from camp and we fixed it enough the next day to get it home. I had a set of spare Rancho UCAs at home, but that was 500 miles away. When I got home I looked closely at the spares and they were cracked too. I talked to Jim at Downey and found it was a common occurrance. If you do break something its not going to be easy to find a replacement. If I were you I would start looking now so you have a back up..... and carry it with you so you'll have a fighting chance to recover your rig.

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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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dude...is that rust on your headers ALREADY!?!?!?!
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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dude...is that rust on your headers ALREADY!?!?!?!
nah its just red mud from a forest hill run we did a month back
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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oh okay lmao, i was like WTF!?!?! piece of crap DT headers lmfao
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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might as well sas lol
X2, and this coming from a guy that has the UCA's and center links, and was planning a build around it (IFS). It would be light duty and it's Turbo and AT... So it's not like a gob of power is going to be exerted on the front suspension. I still want(ed) MPG and on-road manners.

My plan WAS to do the BJ spacer from Rodger and MAKE A CUSTOM DROP BRACKET for the diff. I WAS gonna run it with the bottom half of the diff exposed from the center line just like every solid axle is...

But after reading this and the long travel thread... YIKES!


There is a dude on mud that's running a 1" body lift, stock IFS and 35's with fender trimming.... Doublers and stock gears, and to use his words "it's fine".

Every thing I hear about lifting a Toyota IFS, "Leave well enough alone" echoes in the back of my head...

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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BlazeN8
Mark

I looked at the pictures you posted and the headers on the driver side might make contact with the UCA. The passenger side has the AC compressor and some hoses that look like they may also be in the way too. The qoute from Downey catalog back in 2001 says "Along came the 1990's and a big fat R134 air conditioning compressor. The Rancho upper control arms used with the Downey Kit no longer fit vehicles with the 3.0 V-6 engine with air conditioning"

I'm sure you will figure it out. Try it, if it hits...... someone else will buy the kit! And you have all the pieces, so thats a huge plus when you go to sell it. Rancho T-bars are decent, my brother has them on the Blazeland / Superlift combo kit.


I want to double confirm that. I have a (mint condition ) 2001 Downey cat.

I also have a 94 V6 4Runner I guess by default I'll have to go SAS on that...

EDIT: This is Big Jim Downey we're talking about here... Regardless of what he is today, I'd like to think he knew his beans enough to print that in his catalog.

I WOULD NOT EVEN ATTEMPT IT.

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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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This is aggravating, not gonna lie...
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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Just because the Rancho arms hit headers and AC compressors on V-6 models doesn't mean you have no other choice but SAS. The Blazeland LT design doesn't have these clearance issues. If stock arms fit so do Blazeland arms, because they are stock arms! There has not been any failure issues with Blazeland long arms. Even if you do destroy an arm, say in an traffic collision, finding a set of stock replacement arms is easy and cheap. Core UCAs go for $25 around here. Then re-instal the Blazeland UCA Extension Brackets and you back in business. Same kind of ease in repair and maintainace goes for all the other componants in my design- tie rod ends, ball joints, centerlink, idler arms, bushings, and all the associated hardware. Dont cut up your rig with SAS, just bolt on the Blazeland LT and get 12" of travel.

Originally Posted by tried4x2signN
I want to double confirm that. I have a (mint condition ) 2001 Downey cat.

I also have a 94 V6 4Runner I guess by default I'll have to go SAS on that...

EDIT: This is Big Jim Downey we're talking about here... Regardless of what he is today, I'd like to think he knew his beans enough to print that in his catalog.

I WOULD NOT EVEN ATTEMPT IT.
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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question is, How much is your kit?
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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I got ya, Blaze.

I was gonna SAS it anyway.

Why don't you put a link to your site in your sig?
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Old Jan 31, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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Tried4x2, I added the URL link to my sig, lets see it it works! Mark92 the prices for Blazeland LT are listed on the website- Blazeland.us To those of you who have previously visited, make sure you "refresh" each page to get the latest photos and information. I now have PayPal and credit card processing.
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