Im looking into the Pros & Cons of co2 and a hard mounted system.
Please tell me
1)what you have.
2)why do you like it.
3) what you DONT like about it.
4) would you do it again ?

 

1. What I did have, had to sell it a few years back while I was laid off from Boeing.
The 10 lb PowerTank.
http://www.pnw4runners.com/cargobox/box7.jpg

2. Why did I like it?
It was fast, faster than any air compressor, and dang it looked cool

3. What did I not like about it?
Nothing, nothing at all.
One tank is enough to fill about 30 35" tires from 15 PSI back up to street pressure.
Only drawback is you have to fill the tank once in awhile.
Not very often though...

4. Would I do it again?
Heck yes, and I am looking at the new yellow ones now that Steve Sasaki at PT has.
http://www.powertank.com/products/sfID1/10/productID/76
The above is the basic kit, as I do not need the super bracket or tank boot, I already have them from the last install.

 

You can also buy your own Co2 tank and either buy 4crawlers "kit" or build your own.
I like having my own air source and it is cheap to refill.

If you are going to run ARBs, then I would do a hardmounted system and let it serve double duty

 

thankx for the replies, heres where Im at..
I already have the ExtremeOutback, while its dependable, will always work, is a 100% duty cycle. never have to fill it. but its slow, not an issue in the summer.
I was given a 20# co2 tank, I still have to get a regulator, and a mounting bracket, and find a place to fill "my" (not exchange it) tank, I not crazy about drilling holes in the back to mount this.
But I really like the idea of the hard mount, so that when Im about done with a run, I can flip a switch (in the cab) and fill the tank as we are just about done with the trail, and simply pull out the air hose and fill the tires, keeping the cargo are free. but, for about $40 for a regulator and about what $50 for a mount and the CO2 is done (once filled).
Ive been going between the 2 for about 3 months now, I have no idea what I want to do

 

Here are some ideas for the mounts, including a setup in the back of a 4Runner that belongs to the dude typing this

http://www.powertank.com/mounting.ideas

 

I put in a dual Cadillac air compressor system in my 87' . I liked it a lot and it air up tires pretty darn fast

I am kicking myself now for not removing it when I sold the rig

I planned on putting in a tank but never got around to it, mostly because it was fast enough without one. I tried air tools and it wasn't capable. I thought the tank might allow limited air tool use.

Erich

 

Airtools, since tihs was brought up by Erich.
If you plan on using an impact wrench, they like 90 PSI.
If you go with a 12v system, make sure it can run at a sustained 100 PSI.

When I ran my tank for airtools, I set the regulator at 100.
Pull the trigger and it backs down to 90 PSI, perfect for airtools.

When I was filling tires, I would open the tank all the way up to 150 PSI for a very fast fillup.

Old video here of me using my impact wrench several years ago.
http://pnw4runners.com/tando/impact.mpg

 

thankx for all the replies, thoughts, ideas, and the link, keep them coming. post up pics if ya got any.

 

1. Viair 450c, with 2.5 gal tank and adj. air switch set at 200psi.
2.Reliable pretty quick "toyota owners mag, it was the compressor $250 just under the $900 oasis system.
3.nothing yet wish it was as fast as an oasis but for the price, its all good.
4.Yes I certainly would
pm me with your email and I will send you some pics. I have it mounted on the pass side along the wall.

Aaron

 

I'd post up in the fab thread...

Ive got two air tanks for you that I'll sell to you real cheap if you decide to go w an intagrated system...

 

I have an ARB compressor and 2 2.5 gals tanks, its slow, but works good. I plan to upgrade to a ViAir pump eventually.

 

I got the little master flow MV-1050 or whatever it's called. I rarely air down, since I'm usually just driving on little local roads and trails. For the price, it gets the job done well.

 

What do you mean by a hard mounted system? Compressor/tank?

Takes the "bigger" ARB compressor 5 mins to air up 33x10.50-15 from 15 PSI to 35 PSI with no tank. I'm thinking about making a PVC tank, but it takes A LOT of volume to fill 4 tires...

 

PVC??? Not so sure I would make a plastic tank.

Whats this bigger ARB pump? The old one??

I have 2 2.5gal tank, and when they are full it still takes about 15 minutes to top of 4 33's (havent tried the 35's yes) from 10-25psi.

 

yes, sorry I should have been a little more clear. Im thinking my ExstremeOutback compressor (hard mounted) with at least 2 2.5 gal. tanks, Ive seen a 8 gal. tank, that I "think" will fit.

 

Why not? Sched 40 PVC is rated WAY higher than the 80-100 psi my compressor will do. (Forget the actual number)

RDCKA

Wow...that's a lot of tank for not a lot of help. Do you think it's worth it?

 

PVC has the rating, but if anything hits it, boom and thats a nasty shatter. Metal tanks take a beating and dont throw shrapnel if they get a leak. Also the air going to the PVC is HOT, probally not enough for damage, but you wont find me near pressurised PVC.

I have installed a valve on it so I dont fill the tanks unless I need them. It does help on the first tire and a half. When I get a bigger pump I am sure it will work much faster. I do have enough air to set a bead so thats all that really matters, for now

The main reason I put the tanks in was the pump is SOOO slow....

 

wow,,, really maybe I will stay with the CO2.
are you filling the tanks BEFORE you try to air up the tires, so that they (the tanks) are full, when you start airing up ?

In thery should a compressor with stored air (at least 2, 2.5 gal tanks) fill at least as fast as CO2 ???
Im running 33`s and airing down to 10 psi & fulling up back to 35 psi.

 

CO2 will still be the fastest, depending on what the regulator is set at. But the ARB pump is 1.27 cfm at no load, and I think .5cfm at 100 psi...Once the psi drops to whats in the tires its all pump, and the pump is filling the tanks and the tires. The nice thing is you dont loose pressure when going between tires. 5 gals of air will be plenty when I get a pump worth something. The ARB pump wasnt designed for what I use it for. Its great with just lockers, but once you go above that its no enought. But it works and another pump is $$.

 

i thought about making pvc tanks to go between the frame rails and rocker panels once i got sliders. i ditched the idea once i found the equations to how much air they would hold. i will probably get CO2 eventually. for now i have a MF1050.