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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Tire size / Gear help

I bought a project 4runner a while back that had 33x13.5x15 Toyo crawler tires on it. The truck has standard gears and could just not pull the tires very well so i swapped them out with some 31's.

Right now im kind of stuck between the 2. The look of the 33's and the 4" lift fit like peas and carrots. So im considering regearing the rig to run the larger tires. From what i have read though the 33's are really hard on the front end, and i dont do a ton of wheeling with it so would the larger tires just be a waste?

The rig is a daily driver/weekend warrior off-road rig.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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well i would have said 31" for a dd/weekend truck but with a 4" lift it wont looks very good. so keep the 33" tires and run 4.56 or 4.88's. there alot of good gear/tire threads with tons of info!
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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What year runner? What engine? What transmission?

33's are not hard on an IFS front end, I know some folks that run 35's and up and don't have any issues. If you want to keep the 33's then go with a set of 4:88 gears. It'll get you closer to stock gearing with regards to the tire size and help with the power issue.

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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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87' 4runner stock tranny, 4" lift 22RE 31" snow tires.


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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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It is mostly a driver, but with all the mods i plan on doing to it i think the way to go is with the 33's and 4.88 gears. I have the Toyos, ill just spring for some good A/T's for daily driving.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Junkers88
What year runner? What engine? What transmission?

33's are not hard on an IFS front end, I know some folks that run 35's and up and don't have any issues. If you want to keep the 33's then go with a set of 4:88 gears. It'll get you closer to stock gearing with regards to the tire size and help with the power issue.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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I had 33's on my old 87 with the stock gears and it was bad, but not unbearable. You just have to learn how to drive differently and expect to get places a little later than normal. My front end never had any issues with the 33's.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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I live in the mountains, on the way to work its all up hill pulling 2nds gear. I get tired of the traffic on my tail. 4.88's is the only way i could see doing it.

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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if it were me, i would go ahead and go 5.29 gears. if you wheel AT ALL, youll eventually want bigger tires. gearing is somethin you gonna want to do once unless you find a good deal on some higher gears like 4.88s, 4.56s etc. when i first bought my truck, i said id never go above 31s, im now on 35s with stock gears on a 22re fro a daily driver.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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What about 32s? Seems like it would be a good compromise for you and you probably wouldn't need to regear for them.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 02:13 PM
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I never considered that til now.. Thats probably a really good option.

How are the BFG A/T KO off road? Are the M/T's a better tire?
Im also looking at the Maxxis Bighorn Radial

Where i will be wheeling there is mud, and decomposed granite.

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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gbftats
I never considered that til now.. Thats probably a really good option.

How are the BFG A/T KO off road? Are the M/T's a better tire?
Im also looking at the Maxxis Bighorn Radial

Where i will be wheeling there is mud, and decomposed granite.
The Bighorns do awesome off road in the mud and on the rocks, but I give them a 5/10 in snow. They're good in the deep stuff because they dig and clear out well, but they slide all over the place on packed snow and ice. If you don't deal with a lot of snow, then the Bighorns are great for the price. They are loud on the highway though.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 08:38 AM
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How do they wear?

I have dedicated snow tires. I need a DD/off-road tire.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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They wear pretty average IMO. They are loud for a DD though, not sure it that matters to you. Also check out Summit Mud Dawgs, they are made by Maxxis and they are identical to the Bighorns, but ~$100 cheaper for a set of 4. My spare is a Mud Dawg.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Where did you find the Summit Mud Dawgs in 32x11.50?
Id like to check them out but they are a hard tire to find.

I see the Big horns for $162 a pop.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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I'll ask a buddy where he got his Summits MDs, I got my spare tire used. I got my Maxxis tires on ebay though. I don't know if Summit makes a 32, I've never looked - I run 225/85/16s.
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Old Jan 8, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gbftats
snow tires.

Snow tires as in specifically? Compound? Will run hot on dry pavement? Wear out quickly?

Or just look like snow tires?


Because, for the money... I'd get a pocket locker and KEEP those tires.

You will not go in and come out of more places just by having a axle 1" ~ 1.5" higher...

Traction is where you get capable, not bigger tires.

Traction lets you keep a smaller tire and the need to re-gear won't be so prevalent.

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