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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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Exclamation Solid Front Axle Questions

I have found a solid fornt axle for sale
its 100 bucks what a deal right.
what are the benefits from having one and what exactly does solid mean?
Also how do i know if my truck already has one.

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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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no your truck doesnt have one.. a solid front axle is much like your REAR AXLE!! but it is a turning axle.. its straight across.. it is much stronger than your ifs and also you would prolly convert to leaf sprung conversion so you would get tons of flex!!!

for most weekend warriors ifs is fine but a axle for 100 is a good deal!!!!

you should search because you have alot to learn, not trying to sound like a penis but there is TON AND TONS AND OTNS of solid axle swap info!!

happy searching!
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:06 AM
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First one IFS (what you have), second one SFA.

For some reason I haven't been able to get on Photobucket, so They are attachments..sorry

Oh and thanks Toyospearo for these pictures from the "Why does everyone trash IFS?" thread.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:09 AM
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1985 was the last year Toyota put solid front axles in the American trucks and 4runners.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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Before you go an buy it there is a lot of work and $$$ involved in the swap. The SFA is not necessarily stronger than your IFS (In stock form). Do you need one? Depends on how and where you wheel your rig. Do some searching and i feel you will realize your IFS is fine.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Op, you have lots of reading to do...




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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Buy the axle and either hold onto it, so when your ready to do SAS. You can also double your money by reselling it.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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If you don't know what it is, if you already have it and why you need it. Just ship it to me - that's if its even a workable axle. Ya can't just use any Solid Axle, but one out of an older Yota would work just fine.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Do you have welding and fab skills/ equipment

or a pocket full of cash?

because your going to need one of those.

Not to be a dick but if you dont even know if your truck has one (let alone what years they were made in) or what the advantages are YOU DONT NEED IT
go find the limits of your IFS.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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in the NW you cant find a good complete SFA for no less than 250 and one that is cleaned up and complete can go for 600, I pick up deals like that all the time jsu tto make a little extra cash, but you can tget a return immediatly and usually involves a little elbow grease.

should you SAS? idk i ran ifs for a long time with no problems, then I started to get into more difficult runs and breakage of the ifs suspension occured, break yours first then your ready, most mudding and easy to moderate trail runs dont require such extreme SFA susupensions, just good tires and a rear locker on an ifs you will get very far
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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If you have the urge to convert to SA, make sure you are getting a Toyota axle. There are others that will work but the Toy SA will be the easiest since all the spring mounts will already be in place.
If it is a Dana, make sure it is a passenger side Diff. No point in getting a Waggoneer Dana (for example) unless you have a Tacoma that would need a driver's side diff...

also check the side of the third, stock mini trucks are 8", the Land cruisers used a larger third if I recall correctly...

I would recommend that you inspect that axle closely before purchase. I lived in NY for 5 years and remember what the east coast salt did to axles....
--If it turns out to be one from an 84-85 Toyota (last one pictured) it the one to get...

examples of Toyota front axles and measurements:
Toyota Mini Truck Front Axle Identification
79-80 no gusset
81-83 short gusset (to u-bolts)
84-85 long gusset (past u-bolts)

Stock Toyota front axle measurements for comparison:
55.5" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners, SA Hubs
ID Toyota Mini Truck axles
79-80 no gusset
Originally Posted by gtr1990
Here is a '79
81-83 short gusset (to u-bolts)

84-85 long gusset (past u-bolts)
Originally Posted by MaXXis85
Here is my 85 bedfore I did anyhting with it.

and if you get it is it will more than likely need to be rebuilt:

Rebuilding Front Straight Axle:
http://www.birfield.com/~morgan/tech/axle/
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...eRebuild.shtml
http://www.lukemiller.org/toys/1985_...t_axle_FSM.pdf

Rebuilding Aisin Manual Hubs:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...ferrerid=12218
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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$100 IS a helluva deal - is it complete? Does it include the thirdmember, brakes, steering, etc?
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tc
$100 IS a helluva deal - is it complete? Does it include the thirdmember, brakes, steering, etc?
You probably need to post pics of the 3rd, brakes, steering, etc since he probably doesnt know if he has those as well.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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I'm surprised no1 has said this. So I"ll say it, just cuz I'm an a$$hole.....
If you need to ask.........
you don't need it.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Moved to Newbie Tech.

You got LOTS of reading to do PO.

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 10:14 AM
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i'll give you your money back on it, and pay for shipping.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 03:02 PM
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how much money does it cost if you have a complete truck that was a original striahgt axle, i plan on putting it in my ifs truck. whats all involved?
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 03:11 PM
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If you have to ask, you cant afford it.
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

You got LOTS of reading to do PO.

Oh boy. Read up...
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Old Nov 10, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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yeah read up on it, its great for wheeling but for a dd and occasional offraoder then no, if anything buy it and resell it to make ur money back!
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