I have a 1988 toyota pickup and the lower end is bad on the engine....so i got a new engine well in Toyota terms its new ahaah it only has 95,000 on it... guess how much I paid?!?!?!!?!?! ....$150 for it... so we are going to put it in ....

instead of replacing the bearings and stuff in my old engine....I am going to keep it though to either rebuild in the future or steal parts off it ...not 100% sure ... it threw a bearing and knocks good...has no power either...

what all goes into a engine pull... do i need to take the tranny off and drive shaft s and transfer Case or can i pull the engien off with out doing that.. I no how to do it .. just want a docs second opinion if u will..ahaha

got the tape out and permant marker to mark all the wires and stuff ! and a engine stand to set the new one on to dress it up for it to get put in !

thanks Micheal will get pics... too

 

You'll have to unbolt the tranny and the drive shaft as far as I know and you should be able to pull the motor out without actually pulling the tranny out.

 

You can leave the tranny in. Just make sure its supported in the front once the engine is out.

 

Unhook all wires/vac lines and as you said mark them for reinstallation. Unbolt bellhousing and motor mounts, unbolt exhaust not for sure you may have to remove the radiator. You shouldnt have to remove the tranny with an engine crane should be pretty easy to get out after you get loose from the tranny. There may be sumthing i missed and Im sure someone will chime in. Hope the pull and install goes good for ya and dont forget the pics lol

 

thanks guys .. I thought i should beable to get the engine out with out taking the tranny... going to start working on it tonight that will save me some work .. cause me and my friend where in a dispute that u had to take the tcase off and tranny, driveshafts.. i thought u wouldnt need to.. well it makes sence that u can pull the engine out with out the tranny ... the radiator does have to go.. too make room for the engien to get pulled out ....well thanks guys nice to have a second opinion so to speak...i just have one more hour of class biology to get through then i can start getting my hands dirty with my truck.!!! ahahaha...

i am going to have to remember to get the camera and take it with me ....

 

hey guys... well i got the engine put in ... the thing threw a rod.....so I bought a junk toyota truck for 125 sitting next to a barn and the engine starts rigth up ... but its an 84 and its a 22r I need that engine in my 1988 pickup ... can I put the 22re intake on the 22r and make it fuel injected .. will the wiring work for the engine ?.... or can I drop the 22r in my truck .. and use the same wiring harness from the 22re cause i dont want to switch out everything from the 84..... I need your guys info! thanks

 

How did you find a running 84 for 125?? LUCKY you. I would body swap your 88 onto the 84 and keep the solid axle front end. But that's just me. Cause if you swap it into your 88 you will end up doing a SAS eventually...(if you plan on keeping your truck.
Where are you located?

 

Make SURE you reuse the wiring/vacuum/emissions components from YOUR truck. Do not just drop the motor in expecting it to run with the wrong harness/injectors/etc. I can't tell you the number of threads on YT that have started with "I swapped the motor and left the harness on it, and now it won't run..." That is exactly the WRONG thing to do.

Swap the long blocks, but always always always use the electronics that came with YOUR truck.

 

84 vs 88 comes to mind. I don't think the exhaust manifold from the 88 is gonna bolt up to the 84. If it does then you still have the issue with the PAIR system due to the round vs pear shaped exhaust ports. Intake manifold gasket is the same 84-95 so the EFI intake should bolt up.

Has anyone on here successfully ran late model EFI on a short deck motor? I know some early Celicas had the EFI short deck engines. So I guess one can assume it will respond well to a late model EFI system. I just haven't seen anyone on here do it.

 

Completely missed the 84 vs 88 part.

The two engines are completlely different engines. You are going to run into problems with the intake, exhaust, EGR system, and a host of other things. Price doesn't matter if the engine is the wrong style.

 

well... my to choices are .. take the 22r bolt the intake on for efI and turn the late model 22r into a 22re..... or completely swap the 22r into the truck my 1988
and have a carbed engine in the truck and not convert the 22r to fuel injection but that would take some electrical switching......... and so from what so far i no.. it looks like I am goign to just have to swap out my bad 22re and out in the 22r ...........If I do that can I use the same wireing harness.....

I am guessing no cause its a different computer......

 

Your not reading peoples replies are you....

 

You can turn a post 85 22r into the 22re pretty easily, it just wont work for the 84 and below. Unless DC is wrong about the intake manifold not working. But it does have the same intake to head gasket. Now the 81-82's I would say definitely no since those were the ones with the round intake ports. The 83 and 84's had the square intake ports like the newer 22r's. Also somewhere along the lie and I am not sure which years but the engine mounts changed as well between 22r models.

It's not that simple to go from a 22re to a 22r though as far as the wiring harness goes. But it has been done by at least one person on here and maybe two. Only real issue is the fact the distributors are completely different between the 22r and 22re. 22re to 22r is not something I would do though. And that's coming from a hardcore carb guy.

 

What you'll want to do is take the 84 and strip it down to a long block (Block, head timing cover and oil pan) and put all the accessorys (intake and exhaust) from the 88 onto the 84 long block. This means using the 88 wire harness and all sensors.

Like said above, and I don't know for sure, but you might run into some differences on the exhaust manifold. Earlier models have a round exhaust exit and the later models have the pear shaped exit.

 

snobdds, the exhaust manifold bolt pattern I believe is different as well. But I am not positive. IIRC something to do with the two middle bolts or something like that.

One other thing, did the 84 engine have power steering? Does your 88? If not then it's hit and miss if you get a head that has the bolt hole provisions for the power steering.

 

Yea, that sounds right. It's doable, but it will take some ingenuity.

 

amazingly the 84 does have power-steering and intermitted wipers and tilt steering wheel...

well thanks for your advice .. I am going to have my brother take alook at it and what he says will be the final decision .....

 

hey... well It is rusted out the rear frame from the cab back is gone.. its barely there and the front leave springs sit striaght no curve..

I got lucky for only 125 it was a deal! ahahaha

the engine in it purs so good.....either way i cant do a body swap unless i rebuild the hole frame!...from the cab back....but yea ... It was an awesome price..the guy was just going to scrap it...