Hey all just join the forum but have been reading it for a while. I have what you all will probably think is a dumb newbie question but please read it all before you get mad and go off on me

I have just bought a 1988 4Runner and so far am liking it a lot. I have done all sorts of work on my Jeep and Rangers before I bought the 4Runner.. But when I went to take the Wheels off the 4Runner, Neither of the ones on the drivers side would come off.. after removing all the lugnuts. The front has manual locout hubs, and they look like they are bolted through the rim is that correct? Do i have to take off the manual locout hubs to change a tire? that seems really dumb to me.. Or is it that they are just corroded/rusted/stuck on there? Trust me I am fairly mechanically inclined... So what is the procedure to get the wheels off both front and back? Yes I have searched google and the forum itslef and found nothing to answer my question..

Thanks in advance..

 

No, you do not have to remove the hub. And IMO it was not a stupied question. First post and you got it in the right section.
As you suspected the wheels have probably rusted to the disk/drum. Get some PB blaster or other rust penetrating fluid and let it soak for a while. It took me about 45 minutes to get a wheel off one of my old trucks after letting it soak. With the truck properly supported I using a long pry bar to get it off..

post up some pictures of the 4Runner when you get the chance and Welcome to YT!

 

No, you don't have to remove the hubs, the wheels are probably just rusted on. I've never had the problem myself but a couple of solutions I've heard are to either hit the inside with a piece of wood, or put a couple of lugnuts back on loosely and drop the jack a few times. If you use the hitting method be careful you don't knock the truck off the jack.

 

are they sr5 rims? if so, then they most likely oxidized themselves. after using a prybar, hammer, whatever to get them off, coat the rim where it meats the hub and rotor with silicone spray to prevent this from happening, do your best to eliminate all "white rust" or this will happen again and again... been there. good luck.

 

They are not the normal steel rims they are some sort of Aluminum or alloy as they are pretty well corroded. I didnt want to start beating on them if there was something toyota did that I didnt know about. Thanks for the quick responses... I will get some pics posted when I get a chance.

I kinda assumed that they were just put on in the standard way, but couldnt see a line where they would seperate to slide off.

I wanted to see how the 31" super swamers I bought it with would look on my 2008 Tacoma =) Much hate for the RuggedTrail T/A's ...

Thanks again!

 

Unless they are 16" rims on the 4Runner, they will more than likely not fit the '08 Taco. I tried to put a 15" rim on my '05 tacoma (recently traded in and due to Backspacing and needing more clearance around the caliper, the smaller rim just would not fit.

And you are right the stock Rugged Trails suck..they were not on my '05 for long

 

As been stated, if you have aluminum rims, they will oxidize through electrolysis to the cast iron of the rotor. Because they are dissimilar metals, one has a free electron to give up to the other one, hence the corrosion. It was a big problem that Acura had to solve with the NSX. They ended up using specially coated bolts.

Anyhow, as was suggested, use PB Blaster or something similar, but try to avoid getting it on your rotors. I found I had to use a 2 lb hammer and hit the tire (not the rim) from behind to get them to loosen.

 

Just do what this guy did

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...-today-153024/

 

Never got far enough to check the backspacing or anything.. but did measure as best I could the bolt pattern and they are both 6 lug and same spacing between bolts. I assume toyota only uses 1 spacing for 6 luggers. Either way will take some pics if i ever get around to swapping them ...

 

Just remove the lugs and kick the tire. It will come off

 

.....tehehe! That's extreme procedures, don't you think? Or is it, "duh" procedures? Lol...I've actually almost had that happen to me once. Those alloy wheels are hard to fit over the front hubs, so they hang up and don't like to tighten down good.......well, unless you spray them with lub.

To the OP....
I've had to use a long handled 8lbs sledge to get them off before. They were on for a good while......and even though I lubed them, they still froze up pretty good given the hub issue stated above. Tight, tight fit...

 

I used to have the same issue with getting the tires off. Pounding them off from the back side is really the only way. So I decided to take an aluminum porting tip and open the hub hole just a bit more. Now no more stuck rims. You only need to just shave the hole a little... You then can use anti-sieze for piece of mind or not, not needed.