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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Sounds mean. Can't get over the auto tranny shifting it, though. Manual4lyfe!
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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I agree. If they made the V6 in stick, I would have gotten it.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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bump for updates?
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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Couple more weeks before axon drops off. (I think mid July) Updates will probably go something like this:
- dropped off truck
- They dyno'd stock set up and found if mixture is rich.
- They stubbed in an intake and found enough power to proceed. (Phase One Proto)
- They built a pretty pipe (Phase Two) and tuned.
- First production run will be out on [date], here's the preorder info, dyno stats, etc.

Right now the shop is busy getting ready for the Solara production rollout/preorder. (Plus their many other projects.)
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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I just discovered the amazing megasquirt system. Being the computer/electronics geek I am, I could solder up a system and save a bunch of money. Had no idea that kind of thing existed.

One thing I noticed is that it requires a MAF and a few other sensors to be a complete kit. I wonder if this MAF will work with the megasquirt system.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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What the hell is a megasquirt? The MAF they get is selected for it's design. It can handle high velocity with complete accuracy. They have it on a 600HP project car, it can handle any airflow rate going to our 3.0.

If megasquirt replaces the ECU, then you prolly don't want the kit. CPE's conversion chip will be tuned for our stock engine and configured to talk to our stock ECU. Plug and Play for a stock 3.0. You can get a tunable model though if you're feeling adventurous. I can't see tweaking mixture settings for each 100 rpm without having a lot of diagnostic gear. I'd have CELs a plenty.

Just googled it. Seems like it's the second option. I could see you wanting their pipe, filter, and MAF sensor. But I would imagine that all of the function of the CPE chip is done on board the megasquirt since it's built to take an unknown MAF sensor. They must have a calibration setting for the MAF. The rest of us have ECU's that need translation because we can't re-calibrate them. You wouldn't be in that situation. If you did that, I'd say build/buy an intake pipe and a decent MAF and hook it up to the new system. If you like CPE's stuff they might sell you the pieces you need. Does that answer the question?

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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Well the supra vafm mod has most likely fallen through..... The origional owner screwed with it and I cant calibrate it for crap. I have 2 tricks left up my sleeve to try but after that, it's toast and Ill just grab a 3" MAF and one of gadget's URD calibrators...that way I still get to use my pretty 3" MANDREL isr pipe!

I love the look of that 3" mandrel - looks like a PYTHON!
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 01:51 AM
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D2TC is corect no updates yet. I have to call them on Thursday and set up a date
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Down2TheC
What the hell is a megasquirt? The MAF they get is selected for it's design. It can handle high velocity with complete accuracy. They have it on a 600HP project car, it can handle any airflow rate going to our 3.0.

If megasquirt replaces the ECU, then you prolly don't want the kit. CPE's conversion chip will be tuned for our stock engine and configured to talk to our stock ECU. Plug and Play for a stock 3.0. You can get a tunable model though if you're feeling adventurous. I can't see tweaking mixture settings for each 100 rpm without having a lot of diagnostic gear. I'd have CELs a plenty.

Just googled it. Seems like it's the second option. I could see you wanting their pipe, filter, and MAF sensor. But I would imagine that all of the function of the CPE chip is done on board the megasquirt since it's built to take an unknown MAF sensor. They must have a calibration setting for the MAF. The rest of us have ECU's that need translation because we can't re-calibrate them. You wouldn't be in that situation. If you did that, I'd say build/buy an intake pipe and a decent MAF and hook it up to the new system. If you like CPE's stuff they might sell you the pieces you need. Does that answer the question?

Yep, that answers my question. The Megasquirt system should be able to take "any" MAF and use it after calibration. Now I'm not so sure I am going to be a CPE customer . All I need is a MAF, I will make the intake pipe. The only factor for me, I guess, is cost of a MAF, now that I found the Megasquirt system.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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CPE pays $100+ for theirs but it's a really wicked one. I'm sure you can find cheaper that will work fine if you don't need high performance (no extreme flow rates like S/C. Though I'd love to see a 3.0 w/ a blower just for fun!) If you go on with that project you should keep us posted (on another thread of course.) Sounds intense.
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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Well, I've been poking around on Megasquirt's site and they don't mention a single MAF or AFM anywhere on their site. I'm under the distinct impression that they use a pressure sensor instead, a MAP system. They use a pressure sensor in the manifold to sense from full vacuum to 20 psi of boost and use math (with other known variables/constants) to calculate how much fuel to inject. Correct me if I'm wrong. Even in their installation diagrams it doesn't show a MAF. Haha, maybe I don't even need a MAF at all.

Edit: The pressure sensor is located in the Megasquirt enclosure and a vacuum line is run to an available vacuum port.

Last edited by phorensic; Jun 30, 2005 at 10:56 AM. Reason: correct pressure sensor location
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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just got off the phone with CPE... its going to be a couple of more weeks. They are still busy with some other projects, so I will update you all then. Still post questions, comments or concerns you may have and I will get you answers.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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repost/bump...

axon, do you have anything new to report? Waiting for this mod and the Thorley headers is killin' me.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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Nothing new yet, I'll be checking back with them the end of this week
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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anything new yet? im exxited about this
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Ok looks like this will have to wait til the end of August now due to my schedule. Sorry guys.
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Nooooooo!

Could there be another 4runner donor out there??
ANYBODY (please) that lives anywhere near Beltsville, MD and owns a 3.0 4Runner can get a free prototype: MAFci conversion with air intake worth $300-$500 and could add significant HP. Its like having a 3.4 swap without the swap If you can donate your Runner for about 2 weeks then you'd be the first to own a really nice mod-for free! Just contact them www.cp-e.com and let us know.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rocket
Nooooooo!

Could there be another 4runner donor out there??
ANYBODY (please) that lives anywhere near Beltsville, MD and owns a 3.0 4Runner can get a free prototype: MAFci conversion with air intake worth $300-$500 and could add significant HP. Its like having a 3.4 swap without the swap If you can donate your Runner for about 2 weeks then you'd be the first to own a really nice mod-for free! Just contact them www.cp-e.com and let us know.
I had to put it off till the end of Aug because they told me to call back in a couple more weeks. I will be on vacation in a couple of weeks.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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WE WANT MODS...WE WANT MODS...WE WANT MODS!!!
Any updates?
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:54 AM
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hey axon...

did you dyno BEFORE??????

otherwise, how will you know you got improvements...
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