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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 01:50 PM
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What torsion bars will fit?

So I climbed under my truck today and realized that the torsion bars are pretty well maxed out. I was thinking time to think about an upgrade. I did a google search and couldn't really find an answer. I want to do the 3.4 swap in the near future(ditching the the 22re).

So will the torsion bars from a 3.0, 3.4, or any other truck work as an upgrade and hold the engine weight better?
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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OME has some HD t/bars
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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LC engineering has bigger more heavy duty torsion bars that can handel the bigger motor and tires, stock is 22mm and LC's are 26mm, there supposed to be really good from what i've heard, thats if your gonna stick with ifs suspension
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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I'm sticking with IFS and was kinda hoping to find a cheap alternative by using something from a junk yard maybe
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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When it comes to torsion bars for our trucks, there are a few options to choose from.

I've heard good things about the Old Man Emu and Sway-A-Way torsion bars and people seem to be really happy with them. I've also heard the Northwest Off-Road torsion bars are good if you have a heavy winch bumper or v8 swap, but as you will find from some searching the "buying experience" they provide is hit-and-miss.

I didn't know LC Engineering made torsion bars until selk78 posted about them so I can't give you any information on those except for the fact that LC Engineering has awesome products and besides a somewhat "steep" price, I haven't heard anything negative about the company or their products

Stock Torsion Bars (22.8 MM)
Old Man Emu Torsion Bars (23.4MM)
Sway-A-Way Torsion Bars (25MM)
Northwest Off-Road Torsion Bars (25MM)
LC Engineering Torsion Bars (26MM)
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 05:32 PM
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Try going to http://www.toyomotorparts.com/ and select from the drop-down menus for your model year for both the 22RE and 3VZE engines and see if they share the same torsion bar part numbers. It's a great site to look up O.E. part numbers to compare this and that. Even better is entering your VIN and you'll get the exact part number for your truck.
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 06:22 PM
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all aftermarket t-bars say 86-95 so theyre interchangeable, and im pretty sure the v6 models have a thicker bar..

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...n-bars-200124/
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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Pretty sure the 3.4 weighs a bit less than the 3.0 but don't have any sources offhand to back that up.
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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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Pretty sure the 3.4 weighs a bit less than the 3.0 but don't have any sources offhand to back that up.
The 3.4 has 2 extra cams and move valves. I believe the 3.4 is heavier.
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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A 3.4 equipped vehicle won't have torsion bars

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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
A 3.4 equipped vehicle won't have torsion bars

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T100's didn't come with torsion bars?
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 05:51 PM
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Pretty sure the v6 and 4cyl had the exact same torsion bars. Don't know about the t100's, though. How do you know yours are maxed out?
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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CitrusTheDragon
T100's didn't come with torsion bars?
Good call.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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Pretty sure the v6 and 4cyl had the exact same torsion bars. Don't know about the t100's, though. How do you know yours are maxed out?
They won't tighten anymore and the front end is sagging. I was also thinking it's going to sag more with a 5vz in it
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 12:51 PM
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So just get junkyard replacements. There's lots of us who have stock or cranked bars with no sag. Even 3.4 swappers and no complaints of sagging front end. Cheap and effective.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 01:31 PM
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I was looking to do some junk yard ones, but finding our trucks in a pick n pull is super hard but the next gen runner and t100 come up often
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 01:39 PM
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For my own curiosity I checked on Toyota Parts East; it lists both 4 and 6 cyl. torsion bars as the same part number (I used a '94 Xtra Cab as an example).
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I looked up 1994 4Runner (4 and 6 cylinder) torsion bars and there's a different part number than the Pickup torsion bars. I'm guessing a bit softer which isn't what you want.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by truckmike26
I looked up 1994 4Runner (4 and 6 cylinder) torsion bars and there's a different part number than the Pickup torsion bars. I'm guessing a bit softer which isn't what you want.
I would think it would be the other way. 4runner weights more so it would get stiffer bars to support the extra weight.

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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 04:51 PM
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Yeah, but the extra weight of the 4Runner is in the rear. And it's primarily a passenger vehicle -- hauling people and less likely to have somethng like a snow plow installed, for example. Who knows, I could be wrong. Bring a vernier to the pick 'n' pull and measure the 4Runner bars. Come to think of it, 4Runner bars might be a good bet either way as many 4Runners were more kid shuttle buses rather than work/off-road trucks -- lots of life left in them.
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