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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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Okay stagger lee...

I found a g52 same as (54) for $100. So, why not just do a doubler...right?

Basically I have no idea what transfer case I would use...can you give some insight? I could search all day for this too. Don't feel like it. I will do some research later.

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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Do I simply buy two transfer cases (same ones) and install this?
http://www.marlincrawler.com/images/mc07_500.jpg
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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Basically you have a forward shift and a top shift t-case. The forward shift has links that go forward to place the t-case shifter right up close by the tranny stick shift, and the top load, the stick comes straight up out of the t-case setting it back a bit. Look for 2 top load cases. To double up and a far I was told you need to have 2 top loaders or you have to convert the forward shift t-case to a top load, but its a pain in the a$$. I think you can run a forward shift up front and a top shift in the rear for doubler, but I could be wrong.

see this pic:

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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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Oh I see. I don't think I need a doubler "just" yet. lol. Thanks for the info...that definitely helps me out with my decision!
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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I am just going with 4.70 from TG for now. Thats plenty low for those of us who aren't looking to walk up a wall.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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Yeah I also saw that...but what is involved in installing that? Is it hard? Thanks Stagger Lee!!!
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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There is detailed install instructions on TG.
http://www.trail-gear.com/tech/470install/470inst.html

Think you can handle it? I just like them cause I have an acquaintance there. Marlin is great too.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Jeez...not sure if I can. What do you think? Can you do it? And is it worth a shot?
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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I can pull it off, but I have built a bunch of VW motors and pulled apart a few trannys in my day. Its really not that big a deal. Look at the tools list. If those aren't in your box right now, don't attempt it. On the other hand if you buy a spare t-case you can take your time and learn. Find someone that knows what they are doing to help you out. You never be able to do it if you don't attempt it. Those instructions are pretty thorough.
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by stagger_lee
I can pull it off, but I have built a bunch of VW motors and pulled apart a few trannys in my day. Its really not that big a deal. Look at the tools list. If those aren't in your box right now, don't attempt it. On the other hand if you buy a spare t-case you can take your time and learn. Find someone that knows what they are doing to help you out. You never be able to do it if you don't attempt it. Those instructions are pretty thorough.
I have rebuilt my 22re before. Just looks kinda in depth. If they have a lot of technical tools (electronic gauges for measuring movement in gears) and stuff like that then I won't have a clue. I'll look at the tool list. When are you planning on doing this?
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Definitely got those tools lol. Except an air wrench...I just have an impact. Don't think it matters though. And probably have the rest. Thinking I should really attempt it. Which t-case is this for? The top shift? Thanks!
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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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Those gears are for gear driven transfer cases...

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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scuba
Those gears are for gear driven transfer cases...

Whats your point scuba steve? Are you thinking I'm keeping my chain driven transfer case? If so you are wrong...I'm ditching it for a manual tranny and gear driven transfer case
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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Yeah scuba steve, the non inviter. lol Those gears will work in either box, top or forward as long as its gear driven. I say go for it.

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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 91Toyota
Which t-case is this for?
Umm...You did ask...



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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by scuba
Umm...You did ask...



Yeah I did...although I already knew the answer Just wanted to make sure you knew it too I think I'm gonna go for it.

Yeah scuba steve, the non inviter. lol Those gears will work in either box, top or forward as long as its gear driven. I say go for it.
Which t-case would be better for my truck? I'm guessing the top shift one? (we might have went through this already...lol)
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by stagger_lee
I would look to make sure it has the top shift t-case though (85-88) as opposed to the forward shift
Got it
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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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Only matters if you are considering doubling up later, makes it easier. Otherwise forward is just as good as top, IMO, just has linkage, more parts. maybe top shift starts at 86. So many people do swaps and have done swaps. I have scene it every which way.

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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by stagger_lee
Only matters if you are considering doubling up later, makes it easier. Otherwise forward is just as good as top, IMO, just has linkage, more parts. maybe top shift starts at 86. So many people do swaps and have done swaps. I have scene it every which way.
Oh I see...how basically just look for a transfer case. lol.

Also, when looking at a tranny/transfer case...is there anyway to tell if it is good without installing it? Move through the gears?

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Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Oh I see...how basically just look for a transfer case. lol.

Also, when looking at a tranny/transfer case...is there anyway to tell if it is good without installing it? Move through the gears?

Thanks
yeah just put it through each gear and spin the input shaft and make sure that tailshaft spins, and that it spins progressively faster through each gear. IE in first gear for every 3 times you rotate the input shaft it will rotate the output shaft once, and in 4th gear it will be the exact same, and 5th gear it will turn faster.

as for the orriginal question im not sure what tranny looks best on paper but down here we eat W56's for lunch and the L52's seem to be the ones that hold up the best. just from experience.

I would definitely try that T-case yourself, they really aren't very difficult. As soon as you take it apart you will see how it is supposed to work. If you really get yourself into a pickle you can always drive it down here to Bend and me and harry will set it up for ya
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