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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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i am putting my vote in for the 1uzfe or the 7MGTE. I am waiting to find a wrecked supra with a good motor to harvest all i need....mmmm....turbo...that'll get those wheels turning...imaging running a 1uzfe in 4 wheel low...you'd be able to pull a house...well not really...but it would be cool....
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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The 1uz isn't turboed and doesn't come in the Supra. You would have to get one of them out of a Lexus SC400, GS400, or LS400. The older 1uz had 250hp I think and can be had pretty cheap on ebay (I saw one for $100 once, but normally run around $500-700). Newer 1uz with VVTi went up to 300hp. There are people running the supercharger off a mustang on the older ones too. That's what I want.

The 7mgte can be had for around the same price too.

Those 2 engines get my vote too.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Ls1. It's really light, 400. lbs tq stock, parts numerous, existing tranny & engine mount solutions. just my 2 cents
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RSpilot
Ls1. It's really light, 400. lbs tq stock, parts numerous, existing tranny & engine mount solutions. just my 2 cents
Good post.
Brave (with this crowd,) but good.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RSpilot
Ls1. It's really light, 400. lbs tq stock, parts numerous, existing tranny & engine mount solutions. just my 2 cents
LS2 makes 400lbft, LS1 makes a factory rated 320 or 330, but its more like 320-330 to the rear wheels (friend of mine has a '01 WS6 that only has a chip, and dyno'ed 364lbft to the rear wheels :/ ). Awsome motor either way though.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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i always wonder why everybody thinks they need the most powerful V8 they can find when swapping out a 4 cylinder engine. even a large V6 will have more power than you'll ever need in a toyota. an LS1 and you'll be busting ring gears in a 4x4.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RSpilot
Ls1. It's really light, 400. lbs tq stock, parts numerous, existing tranny & engine mount solutions. just my 2 cents
Yeah, but puting shivvy junk in a Toy should be against the law I had to, I just have such hate for all things GM (except the Duramaxx and ONLY the Duramaxx) nothing personal eh.

Go Diesel... please just so I can see what it entails... Hey you say you like Turbo's... make it a TD... the Cummins 4BT would be my first choice for practicality, but having spent ALOT of time wheeling an Australian 4.2L TD I-6, I can say that that is the be-all and end-all of motor swaps... turn up the juice enough on a diesel, and bye-bye LS1...

Originally Posted by kyle_22r
i always wonder why everybody thinks they need the most powerful V8 they can find when swapping out a 4 cylinder engine. even a large V6 will have more power than you'll ever need in a toyota. an LS1 and you'll be busting ring gears in a 4x4.
yeah all said, I feel the same way, my 22RE is no speed machine, but hell, with the right gearing, I get better milage and I can still wheel all day long... the beauty of Toyotas is their amazing reliability and general tough nature... more than half of that image is rooted in the 22RE's history, why mess with greatness? I guess if you just ran mud or sand, you might want a 3.4 SC wich is a killer motor, or a big v-8, but for trail running, you don't need 1000hp.

Cheers and No worries

Dave

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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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i think that most people that say an R series engine is underpower has never driven a 2wd truck with 4.10 gears. total blast to drive, in fact, i've decided my next rig is going to be a mid-late 70s 2wd with an all-out performance built 22R.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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I was going to do a 7mge swap (3.0 I-6), but I have decided to build a turbo 22re. Its quite a bit cheaper, and should yield a pretty good amount of power for the price.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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How about putting several wankel rotary engines in line together and turbocharging all of them? You'd have like a 12k rpm redline and a thousand lbs of torque!
Or perhaps a small nuclear reactor.
Or, even better, a steam engine from a 19th century locomotive...except the coal shoveling would really be labor intensive, then you'd get blacklung. And the steam engine would really be several times the weight and size of the 4Runner to begin with. What a stupid idea. Who would suggest such a ridiculous thing? That's absurd! lol.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by spindleshanks
How about putting several wankel rotary engines in line together and turbocharging all of them? You'd have like a 12k rpm redline and a thousand lbs of torque!
Or perhaps a small nuclear reactor.
Or, even better, a steam engine from a 19th century locomotive...except the coal shoveling would really be labor intensive, then you'd get blacklung. And the steam engine would really be several times the weight and size of the 4Runner to begin with. What a stupid idea. Who would suggest such a ridiculous thing? That's absurd! lol.
I've actually had thoughts about a small turbine that runs on diesel. They've got some out there that have some pretty nice specs.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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You can actually find 2jzgte's for fairly cheap. I'm talking like 2600-3500 for a used japanese import engine. I would do like what others have said and go with a 7mgte or 2jzgte. Don't mess with the Hon-duh "sloppy ass" 4banger. 165lb/ft. isn't that much in comparison to the other engines you're talking about.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kyle_22r
i think that most people that say an R series engine is underpower has never driven a 2wd truck with 4.10 gears. total blast to drive, in fact, i've decided my next rig is going to be a mid-late 70s 2wd with an all-out performance built 22R.
Yeah, I know a guy that used to have a late 70s 2wd, manual truck. I'm not sure what gear ratio he had, but that thing would really move. Really surprised me. Way faster than my 3.0, but then again his truck was pretty light + the manual. Still impressed me though.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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Hey, go the 7mgte!! the 1UZ-FE is an alright motor, uness your planning on turboing it (very good idea) it's reall a gutless pig..
Not wanting to get the 1UZ lovers angry but a 7mgte with only a 3inch turbo back exaust woud rip a 1uz a new one with the same mods...
My 2 pesos...
Oh and don't the h23a's spin anticlockwise?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DH6twinotter
Yeah, I know a guy that used to have a late 70s 2wd, manual truck. I'm not sure what gear ratio he had, but that thing would really move. Really surprised me. Way faster than my 3.0, but then again his truck was pretty light + the manual. Still impressed me though.
almost every mid-late 70s truck had 4.11 gears, even with a 4 speed. compare that to most '80s and 90s 2wds that typically came with 3.08, 3.42, 3.54, or 3.73 gears. even then, they can get out of their own way pretty easy.

4.11 gears in a 2wd is essentially like having 4.88s with 28" tires on a 4x4, gear-wise. off the line, they're hard to beat.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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So who has actually done a 7mgte swap I found this on Ebay..http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-G...QQcmdZViewItem

Complete front clip this is what I'd want if I were to do it everything is there.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lunnzz
So who has actually done a 7mgte swap I found this on Ebay..http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-G...QQcmdZViewItem

Complete front clip this is what I'd want if I were to do it everything is there.
That particular engine is a turboed 2.0 I6 on the JDM supra. What you want is one of the 3.0 I6 (7m or 2jz) that come on US and JDM supras. Parts would be easier to find.

Several members on this site have done the 7mge and 7mgte swap. Also, check out www.supracharged.com for some really good info too. There is a 7mgte powered 1st gen 4Runner in this forums classifieds right now too.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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As I am new to all of these numbers of engines. Can anyone explain in simple terms what type of diesel engine would be an easy swap into a 91 4runner. What kind of vehicle would it come out of, would the wireing harness hook up, and the trannie?

Thanks.

jack
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Jack, you may want to see this thread:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f123/would-you-buy-diesel-6392/

Seems like the engine of choice right now is the 1KZ-TE or possibly the older, cheaper, less powerfull 2L-TE. How easy the swap is really depends on what kind of drivetrain your current 4Runner has. Any specs on your 4Runner? Manual? 2.4 or 3.0? That kind of stuff would help.

Also check out this website:
www.toyotadieselmadness.com

Daniel
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Sorry I am slow getting back to you. Is there a way that this forum contacts you if some one answers a thread that you are involved in? My 4runner is a 3.0 v6 and I think it has a bad valve. The trannie is a 5 speed manual.

Jack
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