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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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problem after rebuild

HI, ok so i just rebuilt my 22re fired up fine but i noticed its very noisey so i did my first oil change after letting the engine warm up and noticed there is no oil in the oil filter but when i took my valve cover off to readjust the valves there was oil getting to the top of the motor for sure. im just really puzzled right now thanks for any help!!
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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How's your oil pressure? Sometime machine shops remove oil gallery plug(s) to clean the block/heads and forget to replace them, causing little to no oil pressure.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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well i hooked up an oil pressure gage and it was reading 0, were are these oil galley plugs located?
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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please i could really use the help.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Wish i could help but i had a similar problem after my 3.4 swap showing no oil pressure however i was getting pressure going into the filter. i used an oil filter relocation kit nand placed the guage right befor the filter.

maybe try taking off the filter and see if oil sprays out when you crank the motor.
why did you rebuild the motor in the first place?
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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In this pic, it is the big golden looking ring on the back of the block above the rear main (the bigger circle). If the plug is there, the galley could be obstructed somehow. It's happens during retanking motors upon rebuild.

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=5440292

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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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thanks for the help still havent figured out the problem, as to why I rebuilt the motor, it was burning like 2 liters of oil a week and I stripped out 3 or 4 of the exhaust manifold bolts.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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you mean the frost plug? its not supposed to be there?
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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Frost plug? You asked about the oil galley plug, so I posted a pic for the location of it. Is yours there? It should be.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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oh lol sorry the one outlined in yellow ya im pretty darn sure that it was there.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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im still really puzzled im almost 100% sure all those plugs were in place I took my oil pump off and it seems fine after all it is brand new. i had the block clean so im pretty sure all the galleys are clean and not clogged.im at a complete loss. ive gone over everything. its lookin like ill be pullin the motor again which well plain out sucks. anyone got any other ideas before i rip into it again. thanks so much for any help!!
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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Well, be completely 100% sure before you pull it all apart again...the motor that is. Then, try what was suggested. Pull the filter off and see if it sprays out. If not, drain a quart of oil and run some ATF or Marvel Mystery Oil through or drain only a tad and use seafoam. See if that helps. If the plug is there, you just aren't getting circulation. Which is either a problem with the oil pump or some obstruction. The galley CAN get plugged in tanking if someone wasn't thorough. It DOES happen.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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There are 2 oil galleries that I know of. One is located in the back of the motor. If that plug is missing, oil will spew everywhere from the back of the motor. Another gallery is located on the block behind the timing cover. Since oil is constantly circulated in that area, there will be no indication of an external leak, but your oil pressure will be 0.

If you have no external oil leak, the gallery plug located in the front of the block is most likely missing.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 84sr5yoty
There are 2 oil galleries that I know of. One is located in the back of the motor. If that plug is missing, oil will spew everywhere from the back of the motor. Another gallery is located on the block behind the timing cover. Since oil is constantly circulated in that area, there will be no indication of an external leak, but your oil pressure will be 0.

If you have no external oil leak, the gallery plug located in the front of the block is most likely missing.
there is also one on the inside of the block close to the oil filter location
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Assuming that the pump is being driven .............but then oil in heads would kinda confirm that unless it is just there from when you put oil in .
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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well luckly i took pics and all the oil galley plugs are in place 100% sure of it. im a little iffy on running ATF in my motor but i may give it a try im pretty desperate, ya i did think about that too but i took my valve cover off to readjust timing and the put it back on ran the motor took it off and there was more oil in the head the before, thanks for all the help!
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:41 AM
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Oil Pressure

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well luckly i took pics and all the oil galley plugs are in place 100% sure of it. im a little iffy on running ATF in my motor but i may give it a try im pretty desperate, ya i did think about that too but i took my valve cover off to readjust timing and the put it back on ran the motor took it off and there was more oil in the head the before, thanks for all the help!
Well like the previous post said you could still have a oil galley stopped up from tanking the block , I would try to find a way to ensure that is clear before I ran it too much more , hate to see you destroy your bearings with no oil pressure trying to fix it
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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so it looks like im gunna be dropin the oil pan which means removing my front diff i think? or can you just wiggle it out?
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Did you prime the oil pump with axle grease or vasoline? If not, that may be your problem. Its easy to pull the crank pulley and the oil pump cover. I would do that and cram it full of grease. If you still don't have pressure, its something else and my bet would be the plug behind the cover or near the filter as previously noted. Also, pull the oil filter and pump compressed air in...should hear air bubbles in the oil pan and a push back if the oil pressure system is tight. A wet rag should trap the air blown in by the air nozzle.

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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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i did prime the pump, and i try'd blowing air thru the system and i could feel air coming out of the drain plug hole, im at a complete loss why is my filter not filling with oil?
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