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Old 09-06-2007, 02:04 PM
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Which part is more critical?

The power steering pump or master cylinder.


I've got a leak coming from the PS pump. Causes about 3-4" puddle a day.

The clutch pedal, when it warms, up won't come all the way off the floor. It ranges from 1/4 to 3/4 lift. And at times the throw of the clutch is really short and causes it to grab. It's not the clutch, that was replaced last weekend.


So I figure I can nurse the the PS pump a bit, just gotta remember to fill her up and not run dry. It's gotten low once and started to whine a little.
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I'd say both are pretty critical. Steering or shifting...I wouldn't want to drive a truck that couldn't do both.
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Definitely master cylinder. but don't let either go for long.
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Master cylinder - especially with a new clutch.

If the PS goes, you do still have manual steering. You might want to try some automatic transmission leak stop (NOT power steering - the "power steering fluid" is ATF!) to buy you some more time.

When you replace the PS pump, be sure to mark which vacuum hose goes on which port on the bottom.
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Originally Posted by tc
Master cylinder - especially with a new clutch.

If the PS goes, you do still have manual steering. You might want to try some automatic transmission leak stop (NOT power steering - the "power steering fluid" is ATF!) to buy you some more time.

When you replace the PS pump, be sure to mark which vacuum hose goes on which port on the bottom.
Good call about the manual steering, I didn't think about that. Atleast I can still drive, it'd just suck.
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Originally Posted by tc
You might want to try some automatic transmission leak stop (NOT power steering - the "power steering fluid" is ATF!) to buy you some more time.
I like the Lucas power steering stop leak. I've always had good luck with their products....but yes the power steering fluid is ATF.

"GUARANTEED to stop seal leaks in power steering units or your money back. Totally corrects rack and pinion problems."
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Yah it'll steer ok while moving but don't try to parallel park unless your arms are as twice as big as your legs
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Originally Posted by tc
Master cylinder - especially with a new clutch.

If the PS goes, you do still have manual steering. You might want to try some automatic transmission leak stop (NOT power steering - the "power steering fluid" is ATF!) to buy you some more time.

When you replace the PS pump, be sure to mark which vacuum hose goes on which port on the bottom.
A car with a broken PS pump is MUCH harder to steer than a "manual steering" car. Trust me, you do not want to be on the road when your PS pump goes...
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Originally Posted by curtiswyant
A car with a broken PS pump is MUCH harder to steer than a "manual steering" car. Trust me, you do not want to be on the road when your PS pump goes...
exactly what i was going to say.. its not the same as a little honda civic with manual steering... or any other manual steering vehicle for that matter as it was designed to be power operated....
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Agreed, but manual steering a power steering truck is a whole lot easier than trying to get going on a hill with no clutch...
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I'd say the clutch is more important, but it would be nice to steer when your stuck in gear ready to plow into something. .

Scrape the cash and fix em both. Don't want to see you or anyone else get hurt.
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Well a little update.

I had a squeak in the TO and I adjusted it out with the push rod. Another nice thing besides the squeak being gone is the weird non-lifting thing never happens either.

Oh, and I added some PSF (yikes) the PS res and the leak seems to have stopped. Albeit, the leak was noticed while it sat for 4-5 days during the clutch install. Now the level seems to be holding pretty well.

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Clutch Master Cylinder

Could it be that you just need to bleed the clutch MC instead of replace it ?
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My power steering pump leaked for two years.. run it just don't let it get low it'll suck air. You'll toast your clutch if it's not disengaging all the way. I'd look into it first.
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Darn it Scotty they are all critical , I need more warp power from the Dylithium Crystals
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clutch is waaaaay more important, and way more expensive to fix if you let it get screwed up.

the only time that manual steering is a pain is parallel parking. when you're moving its easy.
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