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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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OK I found out why he got the old setup. He ordered from the web site and for some reason Barb didn't update it. He is the ad we have on here with the N71E shocks to be used with Spring and space combo.

New Complete 2nd Gen. Lift Kit

We have had several request for a complete 2nd Generation 4Runner Lift Kit.We put together what we feel is a solid set-up that gives
you three options.


Option (1)

3"-4" Lift (approx.)

Sdori 1.5" Ball Joint Spacers (1pair)
Sdori 2" Coil Spacers (pair)
OME N98 Front Shocks (each)
OME N71E Rear Shocks (each) FJ80 Shock
OME 901HD Coil Springs (each)
OME SD33 Steering Stabilizer
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FredTJ
Well, if you're only asking if the rear shocks are too short for the 4" of lift that the rear springs and spacers provide, then yes, it appears so.
Having said that though, it may not be a problem.
The only way that you'll get 3" ~ 4" of lift in the front (to come anywhere close to matching the rear) is by cranking the t-bars up 1.5" ~ 2 ".
Do that and you'll kill your on road drive and you'll also pretty much kill any flex in the front.

That "lift" package, as it's sold, is more for looks than functionality..

So, if the front won't flex, because the t-bars are cranked so stiffly, then it won't really matter if the rear won't flex because the shocks are too short, will it .....




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The way the rear sag is on these vehicles, it looks funny to lift the front the same as the rear. You wouldn't have to crank your tbars, it will look fine with just the 1.5" lift in the front and 3-4" in the rear. IMHO it looks better that way anyways. It is just advertised as a 3-4" lift, because you could make it that much if you wanted to. The kit together will work very well, with no tbar crank, especially with the new longer rear shocks. Glad to see the vendors on here are such stand up guys:bigclap: Phil (strap22) has personally helped me out before. Makes me feel nice and fuzzy when I get to buy stuff from the vendors on yotatech.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:07 AM
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Jonathan, I am sending you the N71E shocks today 2nd day air so you should have them by Wed. Put the N72's in the box that thesed come in and i will issue a call tag to pick them up later this week. Sorry for the problem but this should get you fixed. let me know if you need anything else.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Simann
Well I am planning on purchasing the ARB OME T-bars, just have not yet. I wanted to put on the suspension then fix the other problems I have ( A/C compressor just took a poop and the PS pump is leaking majorly on a rear seal ), then get the T-bars. Downy makes some too right?

First off... either cranking or adding larger tbars has the same effect... super stiff ride. I have 26mm bars with a ARB and Winch and they are just on tight enought to be tight and I got 1" lift from them... and they are still a little stiff.. You dont want to get more than the 1.5" lift from the BJ spacers.. thats really all you have the ability to do without a bracket lift. All your doing by cranking the tbars is adding ride height... no tire room, just a stiff ride and a truck that wont flex...

Second.. there is only 1.5" increased travel on the front... OEM length shocks are all you need... As far as the rear.. looks like you have gotten it fixed.. but remember for every 1" you add of extension you loose an inch of compression.. so what you need to do is figure out how long of a compressed leangth you can have by flexing the truck with no shocks until it rests on the bumpstop.. then get a decent shock with this compressed lenght and live with whatever droop you can get... you dont want your shocks limiting your compression...
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:11 AM
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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Strap22!

I am seriously amazed at how you handled this! I am besides myself!

I knew I was sent the wrong rears. I figured out the fronts will work since the lift for the front is from the BJ spacers.

I just got home to check my email a little while ago and saw a order number and tracking number from TRDparts4U and was like "I did not order anything?" And then went here to check the thread!

Wow, I am just seriously amazed! I did not know anyone would care that much! I was fully prepared for the parts guys to argue with me since these shocks were special order and returns on special order items usually take forever!

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And for the T-bars, I will get them after Christmas from you guys.

-Jonathan Mann
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AH64ID
First off... either cranking or adding larger tbars has the same effect... super stiff ride. I have 26mm bars with a ARB and Winch and they are just on tight enought to be tight and I got 1" lift from them... and they are still a little stiff.. You dont want to get more than the 1.5" lift from the BJ spacers.. thats really all you have the ability to do without a bracket lift. All your doing by cranking the tbars is adding ride height... no tire room, just a stiff ride and a truck that wont flex...
So what do you suggest I do guys? Strap22? Would the ARB/OME front T bars give me the ability to crank up the front and still have a semi-soft ride and have sufficient flex?

Again my definition of a "stiff ride" is a little different from the truck scene. I had a Supra with TEIN HR racing coilovers and solid bushings throughout...
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Simann
So what do you suggest I do guys? Strap22? Would the ARB/OME front T bars give me the ability to crank up the front and still have a semi-soft ride and have sufficient flex?

Again my definition of a "stiff ride" is a little different from the truck scene. I had a Supra with TEIN HR racing coilovers and solid bushings throughout...
The OME T-bars will be a little stiffer than stock but not as stiff as Sway-a-way. You will be able to add some crank to them and still maintain a pretty good ride. Remember when you modify the entire suspension like you are it will change the way it drives and feels. personally I like it a lot better. It feels like you have more control. The center of Gravety has changed too so it will be top heavy compared to before but I think you will like it. Glad this is working out. Sorry for the fubar on the first order.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gonzo
So he he puts the springs on but has to leave the shocks off the truck cause they are not long enough to even put on? Seems to me the shocks should be at LEAST long enough to install and work. Maybe not extra long for alot of travel but usable.
I glad this came up cause I was about ready to order the option 2 kit.
just my 2 cents.
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The option 2 kit is fine as is it was the rear shocks that should have been N71e for an 80 series LC. Problem has been addressed and handled.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by strap22
The option 2 kit is fine as is it was the rear shocks that should have been N71e for an 80 series LC. Problem has been addressed and handled.

Correct, the front shocks and all the spacers and springs are perfect, it was only the rear shocks! So Gonzo, order them while the kit is cheap! The product is second to none in quality! And for the price you just cannot beat it!

And as you can see, the Service I am recieving from them is exceptional thanks to Phil and the rest of the crew at TRDparts4u (toyota of dallas).

Thanks again! I will have pictures of the install sometime soon. Just have to figure out when I can get to it. The hospital wants me to work all this week and Christmas day....LOL. People getting hurt cutting the turkey...

-Jonathan

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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FredTJ
Well, if you're only asking if the rear shocks are too short for the 4" of lift that the rear springs and spacers provide, then yes, it appears so.
Having said that though, it may not be a problem.
The only way that you'll get 3" ~ 4" of lift in the front (to come anywhere close to matching the rear) is by cranking the t-bars up 1.5" ~ 2 ".
Do that and you'll kill your on road drive and you'll also pretty much kill any flex in the front.

That "lift" package, as it's sold, is more for looks than functionality..

So, if the front won't flex, because the t-bars are cranked so stiffly, then it won't really matter if the rear won't flex because the shocks are too short, will it .....





Fred
You are somewhat correct that this kit is more looks than function. The option 2 kit seems to be the best suited for wheeling but I have several customers that run this setup and like it alot. I run the same as the option 2 but I have a 1"spacer in the rear for the weight I carry. The extra inch shouldn't hurt it.
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Phil is a great guy. This is why just about everyone here buys from him. Only a handful of vendors out there for our trucks that actually take care of the customer and he is one of them.

James
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Phil (Strap22) and the crew at TRDparts4U took care of me big time guys. He sent out the right shocks 2nd day air UPS!

And yes, there is a BIG difference between the N71E and N72 shocks.

I will have pictures up of them on the truck (before and after of course). I need to paint my fender flares though and get them on. And buy another set of wheels and tires to make all this look right and give me some extra tractability off the road!

Again, thank you so much Phil! I will call you tommorow evening to set up the UPS pick up of the old shocks.

-Jonathan Mann
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Glad they got there. I will wait for your call. Thanks again for understanding.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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I'm glad to see that there is still some that have GOOD customer service. That care about our bussiness. I have had some pretty lame customer service and a little skidish of online ordering. Guess you know after the first of the year, (tis the season to be broke) lol, I'll be ordering.
Have a Merry Christmas all.
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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesD
Phil is a great guy.
I know, we cuddle all the time.

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sschaefer3
I know, we cuddle all the time.

You had to tell everyone.......Glad you posted. I need some raffle stuff for the Texas Lone Star Jamboree in January. I am counting on you.
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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by strap22
You had to tell everyone.......Glad you posted. I need some raffle stuff for the Texas Lone Star Jamboree in January. I am counting on you.
OK. Send me the info.

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 05:02 AM
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Phil is an outstanding person to deal with...his customer service exceeds the norm by 200%. Glad you got everything worked out...
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