cruisinforburgers

Just a curious question. when assembling my 22RE motor my Haynes book pointed out on the oil pan gasket section.


"Before installing the oil pan on pre-1985 models, apply a thin coat of RTV sealant to the flange. Attach the new gasket to the pan. NOTE: The oil pan on 1985 and later models dosn't require a gasket - liquid sealant (TOYOTA no.08826-00080) or equivalent) is used instead."

I didn't read this when I put the motor together and used the cork gasket.
My motor is an 86. What is the difference for using the gasket? somthing to do with the motor being EFI?

The motor now has about 300 miles on it and no Pan seal leaks.


Peace out all!
Rick

kyle_22r

i don't like the oil pan gaskets, gray RTV or toyota's black FIPG goo works better.

ovrrdrive

I used the gasket with black permatex on both sides of it when I put mine on. There's no way in hell I would trust putting it on without a gasket.

All of the auto parts stores carried one for my '95 too, so if there isn't supposed to be one why do they all have one in stock?

The pan even has grooves to help the gasket seat...

On a side note, I had to drop mine again after it had set, and it took me 15 minutes to break the seal. Apparently, black permatex makes one hell of a seal around oil.

maxpower_hd

I used a gasket and sealant on my 1993 rebuild too. No leaks and no need to remove. Life is good.

Yoda

We just assembled a 85 22RE oil pan. Used the Ultra-grey silicone sealant. Worked good, no leaks. It had silicone ultra-grey before, and it hadn't leaked in 2 years. The ultragrey is Toyota approoved according to the package.

Don't use the old blue stuff. It gets soft and gooey after time.

farmerj

I used Permatex Contact adhesive and a Fel-Pro Gasket. That was only 2 weeks ago. Still dry.

At 25+ miles from the dealer vs 3 blocks to Bumber to bumber, I went with what was closer and easier to get.

xentrino

I'm putting a remanned engine in and it came with a full gasket set including oil pan gaskets. My manual said to use RTV and I don't remember gaskets being on the old engine (it's been a while since I tore it down) so I just used RTV. I do NOT want to have to fix a leaky pan anytime in the future. Should I pull it apart and use gaskets & RTV while the engine is out and it's easy to do? Or will the RTV suffice? There doesn't seem to be a consensus in this tread about which is better.

ovrrdrive

My own personal opinion on this is that if you have the engine out of the truck still then I'd definitely tear it apart and use a cork gasket with permatex on both sides.

If you have it in the truck I wouldn't worry about though. The RTV should be ok, but not as good as a gasket sandwiched between two layers of the stuff...

DeathCougar

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84-Prior pans have a raised inner lip and thus require a gasket. 85-later pans have an inverted inner lip, thusly requiring FIPG (fill in place gasket) or the like. I would recommend Toyota FIPG, but it is up to you what you use.

Im my opinion, i would NOT use a gasket at all, since the system is NOT designed for it. I've seen countless pans that are leaking cause the crappy cork gasket wont hold and stay leakproof for very long. Think about the factory FIPG seal that lasted 100K+ miles, without leaking?!!

the reason they say apply a thin coat of RTV to the pre-85 gaskets, is to hold it steady on the pan while you install the pan. That way, it doesn't get cocked when you try to tighten it.

DeathCougar

iTrader: (23)

no offense....but this will leak much quicker than just using FIPG..as long as you use the correct product. Especially since most people over tighten the pan, and the gasket just squishes out.

Keep in mind.....i DO realize that some people have done this and their pans dont leak.....YET. Like I said, think about the FIPG on your pan that didn't leak even after 100k+ miles.

ovrrdrive

No offense taken, but I still disagree with your statement.

There are more opinions on gaskets and sealers out there than there are about presidential candidates, I say do what works for you and be done with it.

The main difference between the FIPG that comes from the factory (if that's what's in there at all, I've only seen gaskets in there in my experience) and what you're going to put in there is that one is applied with your dirty hands in your driveway and the other is applied in controlled conditions by a robot and assembled by trained technicians.

If it wasn't a good idea to use an aftermarket gasket in there they wouldn't be available.

There is no way that you can guarantee a good seal in your driveway without a gasket. The way the lip is designed, it will work better with a gasket with the raised and lowered notches.

But like I said, do whatever works for you. My engine is the dryest it has ever been right now.

tampabayota

take a better picture,also try to incorporate more info on the problem.

Taco-n8

So I know its a little out of date, but what would be the right choice.
The manual says to use fipg and yes you can get a gasket at a part store. I would say the best choice would be to call a deal and speak with a mechanic...I trust toyota and would think what they do now is what we should do. Any way I used Ultra grey high torque and it set great. One thing i didnt like was the fact that the manual said to torque to 9fp...I would say 9 on the block but watch it on the aluminum.

Little Elger

I like a gasket, ultra gray on the pan side nothing on the block side, as it is prolly still true, the pan on the other hand may have been tightened too much and warped, also at least you'll have one clean side that might still come off if you need to remove the pan.

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

Toyota BLACK FIPG.

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