Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

more power

Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:31 PM
  #1  
BadYOTA35s's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Dirty Jerzee
more power

how do i squeeze a little more power out of my 3.0 5sp....for cheap...any trick of such...got a k&n and exhaust..dont wanna do headers. anything ?
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:36 PM
  #2  
itsmeagain5789's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
From: Florida
nothing.... k and n wont even do anything.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:36 PM
  #3  
Knuckles's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 692
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa,OK
get a 3.4
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:37 PM
  #4  
BadYOTA35s's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: Dirty Jerzee
it seems my 3.0 has more balls that the 3.4 in my dads 4runner though...and i know k&n dont do nothin...it was a freebie
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:38 PM
  #5  
Knuckles's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 692
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa,OK
i was just being a smart ass. there isnt much you can do.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:27 PM
  #6  
MudHippy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,106
Likes: 27
If you can't get a drop more power from a AM muffler, cut the thing off at the cat. I'll swear by it.

Last edited by MudHippy; Feb 19, 2007 at 07:42 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:40 PM
  #7  
CJM's Avatar
CJM
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,940
Likes: 2
From: Central NJ
Originally Posted by BadYOTA35s
it seems my 3.0 has more balls that the 3.4 in my dads 4runner though...and i know k&n dont do nothin...it was a freebie
You gotta be kidding me, your 3.0 doesnt even make over 200hp/200tq (150/180), the 3.4 makes 190hp/220tq.. that extra 40/40 is alot of power..
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:42 PM
  #8  
mochester's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 93
Likes: 0
how much you wanna bet the runner with the 3.4 is an automatic? that could explain a little of that
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:56 PM
  #9  
neliconcept's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by mochester
how much you wanna bet the runner with the 3.4 is an automatic? that could explain a little of that
wont matter, you still loose power at the wheels with the manual 3.0 and its still gonna be less then the loss of power from the 3.4 auto.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 07:58 PM
  #10  
CJM's Avatar
CJM
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,940
Likes: 2
From: Central NJ
Originally Posted by neliconcept
wont matter, you still loose power at the wheels with the manual 3.0 and its still gonna be less then the loss of power from the 3.4 auto.
Exactly, your losing way to much power at the wheels..
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:46 PM
  #11  
Crymson's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
To actually answer your question to get more pep out of your rig for not much cash you can:
1.lean out your afm
2.pots mod for iat and ect
3.bypass throttle body coolant hose
4.remove any and all excess weight from the vehicle
5.disable emissions equipment (egr, pair, catalytic converter)
*****not intented for use on pollution controlled vehicles*****
6.advance ignition timing
7.route cold air to filter
8.wrap exhaust and headers
9.wrap intake pipe
10.cooler t-stat
11.disable power steering/ac
12.use synthetic oils in transmission/differential/engine
13.install engine oil cooler
14.electric fan
15.basic maintenance items you may have neglected (plugs, distributor cap/rotor, plug wires, etc...)

Thats all I can think of right now.

Originally Posted by CJM
You gotta be kidding me, your 3.0 doesnt even make over 200hp/200tq (150/180), the 3.4 makes 190hp/220tq.. that extra 40/40 is alot of power..
The reasoning behind his '90 3.0 std cab being faster than the 3.4 4runner is weight. The 4runners have at least 1000 lbs on the early pickup trucks.

Last edited by Crymson; Feb 19, 2007 at 09:11 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:00 PM
  #12  
Elton's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,261
Likes: 7
From: Siletz,Oregon
good luck
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 05:11 AM
  #13  
nmtoy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 699
Likes: 1
From: Albuquerque, NM
Do you have stock 4.10 gearing, or even 4.56? 5.29 gears would make a big difference. Otherwise the 3.0 isn't worth spending money on.

Robb
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 06:41 AM
  #14  
Kutter's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Kansas
I tired to squeek out hp from my 3.0. Headers, new exhaust, intake. Not real impressive. The headers made more noise than HP.

I dropped in a 1999 Tacoma 3.4 2 months ago. That's what I'm talking about. It will lay down 20' of rubber from both 31" back tires on dry concrete street and be ready to hit second. I drive around town in 3 gear cornering without downshifting. I can do stop and go traffic in second gear no sweat or third gear if I am a little easy on the clutch. I got 14-18 MPG with the 3.0, with the 3.4 I get 17-21 MPG.

1995 4Runner 5 speed 4:56 gears. I have installed Stock Toyota tubular exhaust and matching tubular crossover from 2002 3.4. Now it is very torqy but still fast to 100 MPH. This is fine for me because I don't normally 4x4 more than 100 mph. lol

Go ahead a try the things listed above, but if you want real power that is always there put in a 3.4 or regear the 3.0.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 07:03 AM
  #15  
LS1Steve's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 261
Likes: 0
From: Encinitas, CA
ditch the k&n and get an $10 adapter plate for the MAF, this way you can remove the entire airbox and run a 3" cone filter right off the end of the MAF. helps the high end a bit.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 07:46 AM
  #16  
wontonrunner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Regina Canada
Originally Posted by Crymson
To actually answer your question to get more pep out of your rig for not much cash you can:
1.lean out your afm
2.pots mod for iat and ect
3.bypass throttle body coolant hose
4.remove any and all excess weight from the vehicle
5.disable emissions equipment (egr, pair, catalytic converter)
*****not intented for use on pollution controlled vehicles*****
6.advance ignition timing
7.route cold air to filter
8.wrap exhaust and headers
9.wrap intake pipe
10.cooler t-stat
11.disable power steering/ac
12.use synthetic oils in transmission/differential/engine
13.install engine oil cooler
14.electric fan
15.basic maintenance items you may have neglected (plugs, distributor cap/rotor, plug wires, etc...)

Thats all I can think of right now.



The reasoning behind his '90 3.0 std cab being faster than the 3.4 4runner is weight. The 4runners have at least 1000 lbs on the early pickup trucks.

The tbody coolant hose is there to pre heat the fuel correct? Does disconnecting it make a noticeable difference?
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 04:27 PM
  #17  
Crymson's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by wontonrunner
The tbody coolant hose is there to pre heat the fuel correct? Does disconnecting it make a noticeable difference?
The t-body coolant hose is there to heat up the throttle butterfly valve, to prevent it from icing in extreme cold conditions. Does disconnecting it make a noticeable difference or not on the 3.0 I cannot say, I have yet to do so myself. The LS1 crowd has seen a 5 horsepower at the wheels difference, yet their engine is quite a bit more efficient than the 3VZE. You may be hard pressed to notice a difference with a few of the aforementioned steps, but the combination of them with supporting mods does add up. One of the main focuses of the list is to keep your engine running as cool as possible and your intake charge as cool as possible, allowing you to run more timing advance.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
delmert
84-85 Trucks & 4Runners
11
Sep 30, 2015 04:34 PM
Griff
93-98 T100s (Build-Up Section)
2
Sep 23, 2015 10:11 PM
shisha1999
84-85 Trucks & 4Runners
7
Sep 20, 2015 11:44 AM
agrout
Pre 84 Trucks
3
Aug 13, 2015 06:12 PM
Sidherish
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
1
Aug 2, 2015 01:42 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:49 PM.